What doctrines in a local church would cause you to now leave if adopted?

[Paleouss]

What doctrines if adopted by your pastors/Elders would be enough to cause you to leave and depart?

Greetings Jesus Fan. Hope your week was a great one.

Women being ordained now

I'd think about leaving

charismatic expressions

I'd be uncomfortable and want to leave.

one bible only now allowed for all to use as members

I would in fact leave.

no longer just a pretrib premil?

I'd see where it went.


Peace to you brother

 

[JonC]

I can think of many, but here are a few:

1. Infant baptism
2. Women as pastor
3. Calvinism
4. Arminianism
5. Snake handling

 

[JesusFan]

I can think of many, but here are a few:

1. Infant baptism
2. Women as pastor
3. Calvinism
4. Arminianism
5. Snake handling

most local churchs though have a mixture of 3/4

 

[JonC]

most local churchs though have a mixture of 3/4

To some degree, yes.

My point is if they adopted either as their doctrine I would leave.

 

[JesusFan]

To some degree, yes.

My point is if they adopted either as their doctrine I would leave.

Why, as its not heresy just different views

 

[JonC]

Why, as its not heresy just different views

Because I am Baptist.

It would be insisting on a doctrine that is not in the Bible (in "what is written"). This is an area that fall under what Baptists call "soul liberty".

I am not opposed to churches holding either as their doctrine. That is up to them. But separating along those lines is something I would not want to be a part of. As I know both are wrong, I would not feel comfortable being a member.

 

[JesusFan]

Because I am Baptist.

It would be insisting on a doctrine that is not in the Bible (in "what is written"). This is an area that fall under what Baptists call "soul liberty".

I am not opposed to churches holding either as their doctrine. That is up to them. But separating along those lines is something I would not want to be a part of. As I know both are wrong, I would not feel comfortable being a member.

What cannot knew either of them are flat out wrong though, as only the Lord knows that truth

 

[JonC]

What cannot knew either of them are flat out wrong though, as only the Lord knows that truth

We can know both are wrong as a whole, but yes, each probably has some truth in them.

The issue is insisting that the congregation accept either. I would leave such a church.

 

[Salty]

The issue is insisting that the congregation accept either. I would leave such a church.

I think most church members do not know what each of those even teach. chancers are, they would just go by what the pastor says

 

[JonC]

I think most church members do not know what each of those even teach. chancers are, they would just go by what the pastor says

I think most are spiritually aware enough not to care. In the end it is just philosophy.

 

[Ben1445]

I can think of many, but here are a few:

1. Infant baptism
2. Women as pastor
3. Calvinism
4. Arminianism
5. Snake handling

If there was a snake in the church service, I would be sure we handled the snake(with discretion). Certainly wouldn’t let it wander around. But I would not plan to bring them in.
If you want a safari or animal show, go to the zoo and don’t tempt the Lord.

 

[Deacon]

….elder rule instead of pastoral leadership

Could you elaborate? Aren’t pastor’s elders?
Are you comfortable with the traditional Baptist deacon board rule?

Rob

 

[Deacon]

The one of the things I look for in a SOF is young earth creationism.
If they think that is so important to include, I’m out!

Rob

 

[kyredneck]

5. Snake handling

Snake Handling On The Rise In Baptist Churches

 

[JonC]

Snake Handling On The Rise In Baptist Churches

Isn't "no snakes" a Baptist distinctive?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

What doctrines if adopted by your pastors/Elders would be enough to cause you to leave and depart?

Women being ordained now, charismatic expressions, one bible only now allowed for all to use as members, no longer just a pretrib premil?

Bring a woman in to pastor a church. Being OK with abortion, homosexuality, evangelical, being a part of denominations and conference's. MUST BE INDEPENDENT.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Isn't "no snakes" a Baptist distinctive?

Well can you eat them after services?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Isn't "no snakes" a Baptist distinctive?

How could you even ask that question…esp., a Southern Baptist?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Snake Handling On The Rise In Baptist Churches

You can’t be serous?

Bring a woman in to pastor a church. Being OK with abortion, homosexuality, evangelical, being a part of denominations and conference's. MUST BE INDEPENDENT.

Oh forgot, no infant baptisms, no sacred images, no sacramentalism in order to be saved (Grace alone). also pedophilia (none of that is an acceptable norm) … can’t ya tell I was raised RC?!?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No. But, frankly, if I waited to find a church that agreed with practically everything I believe I'll never find a Church. I happen to have recently moved and will begin a search soon. Some Churches believe in certain (non-critical) issues I don't really believe in. I just don't really bring it up and don't "teach" it.

Some Churches have practically nothing meaningful on their statements of faith. I.E. their "What we Believe" section will be little more than a link to whatever the most recent B.F.M. statement is.

I don't have to agree with every generally accepted issue to be willing to belong to, worship with, fellowship with and partner in ministry with a local body. Where I come from in the American South, there's an SBC Church on every corner. Quite often, they haven't meaningfully combed through their own statements of faith or Church Constitutions in decades. Half the members don't know what they supposedly believe a lot of time. That's not good, it's just how it is sometimes.

The 10% tithe is a good example around here. Most churches assume it to be Biblical. (My last Church did). It was in their statement of faith. I wasn't the Pastor and it wasn't my job to convince them to change their position. I consider it to be a non-critical issue.

I also have to consider the possibility that I can be the one who is mistaken on some issues! (Especially if I am the minority).

Most Christians (even pastors sometimes) rarely critically examine the doctrines they were taught as a new Believers or even as a kid. That's unfortunate, but, normal for many believers.

I hold to a few (not many) uncommon views for most Baptists. I'll never find a Church that agrees with me 100% on all of them. Until then, I find a Church I can worship in regardless and keep it to myself except in private individual conversations with other mature believers and my own family.

Won’t your wife question some decisions or is she OK with your choice of church.. I only ask cause my dear wife is very critical of Quasi casual churches who have a liberal bent. She won’t even consider denoms like UMC, Eposcipal, Presbyterian (even though she’s raised up Dutch Reformed).