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What happened to the caravan after the midterm elections?

RighteousnessTemperance&

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If you are going to have a socialist society, you do not want people to have guns because they will stand up for their property. Socialists want your property for themselves and they want to destroy your family because family is not part of the structure of socialism since it is not based upon any morality unless you can find some morality in atheism, which I can't.

Yes, Venezuela has been a great (terrible) example of how well disarmament works.

Venezuelans regret gun ban, ‘a declaration of war against an unarmed population’

Socialism is a mass of confusion. It has a form of godliness, which unfortunately fools a lot of Christians. It borrows and twists morality to suit its own ends, e.g., theirs is a twisted form of sharing that is actually theft (what's yours is mine). It is ultimately bereft of true morality.


In Canada, the government is now murdering adults with socialized medicine. It is called MAiD, which is the Canadian government advertising for a ghoulish program of medical assistance in death. Go to the doctor in Canada and if you are too sick or they can get away with it, they are going to give you a lethal injection in the name of $$$$.

I was not aware of MAiD. How cleverly they turned MAD into MAiD to make madness sound so benign, so appealing, like a grand servant of the people--that murders them in their sleep.
 

FollowTheWay

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Yes, I see numerous problems, because you seem unable to distinguish between moral law and personal conviction. If you want to offer your approach as a voluntary option, fine. But again, you have no moral grounds to impose it on others, thereby infringing upon, abridging, or denying their fundamental rights to self-protection. In this you are completely wrong, because you wish to disarm the weak and enable the wicked.
Are you not trying to impose your brand of Christianity on America?
 

church mouse guy

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Yes, Venezuela has been a great (terrible) example of how well disarmament works.

Venezuelans regret gun ban, ‘a declaration of war against an unarmed population’

Socialism is a mass of confusion. It has a form of godliness, which unfortunately fools a lot of Christians. It borrows and twists morality to suit its own ends, e.g., theirs is a twisted form of sharing that is actually theft (what's yours is mine). It is ultimately bereft of true morality.




I was not aware of MAiD. How cleverly they turned MAD into MAiD to make madness sound so benign, so appealing, like a grand servant of the people--that murders them in their sleep.


The Democrats want to disarm us so that they can rob us and keep it for themselves. Only rich countries are the targets of socialists. Venezuela has more oil reserves than Saudi Arabia. Cuba was the richest country in Latin America at the time. The Democrats are now controlled by the leftists, who are spinning a web of lies about how the robbery and murder of the people with property is necessary for social justice and they are saying that Christianity teaches that socialism is something other than the murder that we know it is. The Dems are making a deal with the jihadis to destroy the USA but the Dems cannot control the jihadis, who will eventually destroy the Dems because jihadis are not soft like the Dems.
 

Alcott

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Not yours that justifies taking food and medical help away from the poor.

How about the one [Jesus] who justified a hooker's dumping expensive perfume on his feet, with a 'follower' remarking that it could have been sold and the funds could have fed many of the poor among them? That falls within your charaterization of "taking" necessities from the poor.
 

FollowTheWay

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How about the one [Jesus] who justified a hooker's dumping expensive perfume on his feet, with a 'follower' remarking that it could have been sold and the funds could have fed many of the poor among them? That falls within your charaterization of "taking" necessities from the poor.
Giving to Jesus is not taking away anything from anyone else. We owe everything to Him and can never repay our debt.
 

Alcott

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Giving to Jesus is not taking away anything from anyone else. We owe everything to Him and can never repay our debt.

Then explain how the poor are having food and medical help taken from them if they didn't have it to be taken.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Are you not trying to impose your brand of Christianity on America?
Actually, no, and I'm surprised you would think so. Do you imagine that I insist agnostics, atheists, Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, Jews, et al., follow the New Testament or else face fines or incarceration or the death penalty?

However, informed by God's word and thus having a biblical worldview, I do seek to influence for the good of all. There is a moral standard based on the ten commandments that should be legally upheld. Ben Shapiro did an admirable job of relating that in a speech at Liberty University. Ben Shapiro - Liberty University

 

FollowTheWay

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Then explain how the poor are having food and medical help taken from them if they didn't have it to be taken.
4 Ways Trump and GOP Have Launched a Full Out Assault on America Poorest
4 Ways Trump and GOP Have Launched a Full-Out Assault on America's Poorest

Perhaps no issue is more indicative of this Congress’s hostility toward poor Americans than the slew of legislation introduced to dismantle the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare. After the House’s passage of the American Health Care Act (AHCA), Senate Republicans took their own stab at dismantling the ACA, culminating in the Better Care Reconciliation Act (BCRA). Like their counterparts in the House, Senate Republicans suggested repealing the ACA’s taxes, restructuring its subsidies, eventually ending the Medicaid expansion and empowering states to opt out of some of the ACA’s mandated insurance features. BCRA tied the distribution of subsidies back to income, but in a reversal of the ACA, capped eligibility at 350 percent of the poverty line rather than 400 percent beginning in 2020.

To add insult to injury, subsidies would be much smaller—premiums for a mid-level plan for a 64-year-old who earned $26,500 a year could have skyrocketed by 2026 to $6,500. And that’s after the subsidies kicked in.

Between the lower subsidy limit and the less generous benchmark plan, poor Americans would have ended up paying more for lower quality insurance plans with premiums, deductibles and out-of-pocket costs so high they might have foregone a plan altogether. That’s especially true for patients with pre-existing conditions. Without mandates to cover “essential health benefits,” the BCRA, like the AHCA, empowered insurance companies to offer skimpy plans covering only the bare minimum, rendering them useless to those with serious health issues.
Suggested cuts to the Department of Housing and Urban Development totaling $6 billion threatened housing assistance programs with services critical to poor families. The Community Development Block Grant Program, the HOME Investment Partnerships Program and the Housing Choice Vouchers program were to be completely eliminated. Furthermore, direct rental assistance payments (like Section 8 Housing) were to be cut by $300 million; housing for the elderly (including the Section 202 program) was to lose $42 million in funding; and Section 811 housing for Americans with disabilities was slated to lose $29 million.
Most infamously, the Trump administration proposed cuts to Meals on Wheels, a beloved program that provides millions of meals each year to poor Americans.
Even children weren’t spared; funding cuts were proposed for Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children, better known as WIC, which provides nutrition education, breastfeeding education, and most critically, food vouchers for poor children and their mothers. The administration recommended completely eliminating the 21st Century Community Learning Centers program, a partnership between the federal government and schools, churches and nonprofits that services 1.6 million children across the country, most of whom are poor.
Congress declined to accept the Trump administration’s specific budget, which also included $193 billion in cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), $21 billion in cuts to Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and $877 billion in cuts to Medicaid over the next 10 years. But it offered an equally hostile alternative vision. In October, Congress passed a budget resolution that, though unlikely to ever become law, loosely codifies its budget and policy priorities in ways that starve the social safety net.
 
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