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dianetavegia
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Well I know how old Blackbird and kids are and I know how old Benjamin is but not his children but I'll be looking forward to seeing how much 'power' you both have when your kids are ready to marry. 
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My daughter would be alienated from the fiancé from the onset; she has been taught that if a young man really loves her he will respect her enough to HEAR her beliefs and avoid temptations. She is also aware that a young man may not understand the purposes for being obedient to God and the blessing involved and may have to explain it. She not only would not be alienated from me she would turn the sucker in for instruction if she really liked him. True love is important to her and she knows the world is an ignorant place when it comes to understanding just how God’s plans for rewarding us His full blessings work through the instructions in His Word.Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
Benjamin,
If you carry through with using "a stick", you could (and should) end up in legal trouble. Worse, you run the risk of alienating your daughter.
Just turned 47 and I'm benchpressing about twice my weight at present.Originally posted by dianetavegia:
Well I know how old Blackbird and kids are and I know how old Benjamin is but not his children but I'll be looking forward to seeing how much 'power' you both have when your kids are ready to marry.![]()
I know my influence has limits and my words are weak, but God’s words are strong and the truth in them must be seen. God’s word told me to instruct my children to know the Lord and to be wise which comes from knowledge, which leads to understanding, which will set them free. They are in the flesh and they have weaknesses and they may struggle. The question is how much of the truth they know and how much do they love the truth.Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
Despite your best intentions and raising them right, Benjamin, kids have a way of doing their own thing. Doesn't mean they will not get it right eventually, but kids don't always do what you expect. When she is old enough to have sex, she will also be old enough that peers have more influence than mom or dad.
You run with a rough crowd.Originally posted by AVL1984:
I know as a youth, I was hit by two of our youth pastors in the face (slapped if you prefer). Though I was very much the rebel in those days, they had no legal or moral right to hit me for ANY reason. They were not my parents.
As a grown up, I was attacked physically by three preachers. One was a former pastor whom several of us had caught in an adulterous relationship. Another was the pastor of the church where I and another man served as "assistant" pastors. His father later attacked me at work in the restroom, pushing me up the wall til my feet were dangling and then hitting me with his fist. I nearly lost my job over that one because I would not press charges and it was on my employers property. I don't believe it is right for a pastor to strike anyone unless it is totally in self defense or in defense of his family.
I thought I've been to some extreme churches; I'm not even in his league. I haven't even been threatened by a preacher, let alone attacked.Originally posted by Gib:
They were just giving Tony the 5-finger fellowship.
(Pro 10:23) It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
Who could tell you such a thing, WHO could it be? WHO would want to make you think such?
Could it be . . . . Dana Carvey?
(Pro 10:23) It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.Originally posted by Benjamin:
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Who could tell you such a thing, WHO could it be? WHO would want to make you think such?
Could it be . . . . Dana Carvey?
I also would say wait until your kids are older. Those who say the most sometimes have to eat those words. Kids will go their own way. I hope you don't have to deal with problems, but believe me, even kids from the best Christian homes get into trouble.But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.