What if Calvinism is incorrect?

[blessedwife318]

You went out of your way to bring up Calvinism on that board and were warned several times by the mods. You are the only person I have seen who feels the need to say what camp a book or author is in. Most people can figure that out on their own or have a good idea what camp different author are in.

 

[InTheLight]

Yes I did but my intent was not to cause division just as a statement of reference. All in all a bad fit for me and I left.

But I did not mention calvinism to cause any fights as my goal was to talk evangelism but if I used calvinist tracts and highly endorse them why can't I say that?

Why can't you? Because the mods specifically asked you not to bring up Calvinism. Several times. Yet you continued.

 

[BobRyan]

I read lots of books on evangelism including many by Calvinist authors. Lately I have been reading an Arminian Baptist type book on evangelism by pastor Paul Chapell of Lancaster Baptist Church. I am reading story after story in this book of people that have been saved, discipled, and grow to be pastors or to work in the ministry full time. I have not read of such biblical success in any Calvinism based evangelism book I have read. I do not know if the people being led turn out to be false converts, but I can't assume that. It does not appear that Paul Chapell uses the 10 commandments nor gets into as much depth on sin, hellfire, and the coming judgment of Christ as the Calvinist evangelists do in their books. Perhaps this is the reason why he seems to get so many converts, but I can't say as maybe God is using this ministry. Newborn babes do not exactly fully understand hell, sin, the coming judgment, and other such doctrines that oftentimes the Calvinist based evangelism books push.

So what if Calvinism is incorrect in some areas or all areas? These kinds of books certainly make me wonder. I try and read Arminian based books with the same fairness as the Calvinist books as I strive not to have a bias nor agenda. Every book is compared to the scripture and I find much scripture support in both the Calvinist and Arminian based evangelism books. So what say you?

you said "It does not appear that Paul Chapell uses the 10 commandments nor gets into as much depth on sin, hellfire, and the coming judgment of Christ as the Calvinist evangelists do in their books"

While it is true that you can find some cheap grace forms of the Arminian POV - I know a great many sources in the Arminian camp that excel in the area of doctrine about "sin, hellfire, and the coming judgment of Christ"

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

This is false. I mentioned Calvinism on occasion but my goal was to speak on evangelism. However all the posts that I mentioned calvinism were misinterpreted. But can I expect no better? Those people had a bias against me from the start.

No Evan, your attitude on that board was not godly. and it had little to do with the fact that you are a Calvinist, it had everything to do with how you presented yourself and the attitude that you seemed to have.

 

[JamesL]

Biblically sound Calvinist....

You do know that's an oxymoron?

 

[JamesL]

Biblicists today, however, reject all the points of Calvinism as
unscriptural and all the points of Arminianism as unscriptural. "

I guess I have been a Biblicist for a while

 

[evangelist6589]

No Evan, your attitude on that board was not godly. and it had little to do with the fact that you are a Calvinist, it had everything to do with how you presented yourself and the attitude that you seemed to have.

Judging my motives huh? The prophet gave sound advice about that place which I was fortunate to leave. Sadly I did not listen to him at first.

 

[BobRyan]

I It does not appear that Paul Chapell uses the 10 commandments nor gets into as much depth on sin, hellfire, and the coming judgment of Christ as the Calvinist evangelists do in their books. Perhaps this is the reason why he seems to get so many converts, but I can't say as maybe God is using this ministry. Newborn babes do not exactly fully understand hell, sin, the coming judgment, and other such doctrines that oftentimes the Calvinist based evangelism books push.

So what if Calvinism is incorrect in some areas or all areas? These kinds of books certainly make me wonder. I try and read Arminian based books with the same fairness as the Calvinist books as I strive not to have a bias nor agenda. Every book is compared to the scripture and I find much scripture support in both the Calvinist and Arminian based evangelism books. So what say you?

Calvinism is most certainly wrong - but I am curious about your statement regarding the TEN Commandments.

There is a thread on BB where that subject has come up and some Calvinist and Arminian sources were referenced.

one of the Arminians here seemed to indicate that he was not in favor of the TEN Commandments because he was not a Calvinist like Spurgeon.

 

[BobRyan]

It does not appear that Paul Chapell uses the 10 commandments nor gets into as much depth on sin, hellfire, and the coming judgment of Christ as the Calvinist evangelists do in their books.

primary subject with both Calvinist and Arminians agreeing to some extent on the subject in your post above #1

comment about Spurgeon #131

List of both Arminian and Calvinist sources affirming the point while one of our Arminian posters insists that i am the only one that notices this fact #69 .


"Baptist Confession of Faith"
"Westminster Confession of Faith"
C.H. Spurgeon
Andy Stanley
Matthew Henry
[FONT=&quot]Jamieson, Fausset, Brown[/FONT]
R.C Sproul
"D.L. Moody"
"Dies Domini"

 

[Revmitchell]

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So what if Calvinism is incorrect in some areas or all areas?

That's it! You're kicked out of Calvinism!