What is a "feminist'?

[Thankful]

Opps, double post.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by Headcoveredlady:
"In 1869 Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton formed a new organisation, the National Woman Suffrage Association (NWSA). The organisation condemned the Fourteenth and Fifteenth amendments as blatant injustices to women. The NWSA also advocated easier divorce"

"This great American Atheist, every woman in the United States who can vote, attend college, hold property, have custody of children, or live with some independence owes these liberties to the great Atheist fighters of the suffrage movement, led by Susan B. Anthony. She is revered in the common every day routines of living by women everywhere. The small freedoms —as well as the large— hard won victories of her single-minded devotion and dedication, remind us constantly that we all need to struggle to maintain them and enlarge them, in her memory and for our personal expanding satisfactions of a good life."

Hello!
Can you read

No place does this athiest propaganda
claim that Susan B. Anthony
is an athiest. It does say she lead the "great Atheist fighters of the suffrage movement"
but she lead also the great Christian fighters
of the suffrage movement, the great agnostic
fighters of the suffrage movement, and the
great Jewish fighters of the suffrage movement.

As for the phrase "This great American Atheist",
it refers to the ORGANIZATION making the statement, not to Susan B. Anthony.

 

[Jim1999]

Coming out of a patriarchial society, such as the UK was/is, the world was ripe for feminism. As an example, there is a law, still on the books, in London that a man cannot beat his wife after 9M. The law suggests it is alright before 9, but not after 9. Actually, it is a noise violation, but written in pre-feminism times.

I doubt very much if anyone can apply the definition of Susan B. Anthony feminism or even Betty Friedan to-day. The whole scene has changed, and some of the early people might even be embarrassed by what some call feminism to-day.

Didn't Abraham Lincoln say something about "All men (generic) are created equal"? And this was foundational to the constitution.

I may give direction to my wife, but never tell her what to do. She just might give me directions, and a road map.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[Thankful]

One last thing that I want to add:

Susan B. Anthony also said the following:

"The religious persecution of the ages has been done under what was claimed to be the command of God."

I don't think she said this because she didn't believe in God. I think she said this because it is a true statement according to history.

 

[timothy 1769]

Originally posted by Edifier:
Hello!
Can you read

while you have no problem defending women in theory, apparently you have no problem being abusive toward them in real life when they disagree with you.

edifier, as a christian gentleman you should apologize and ask her forgiveness.

ps - we all get angry sometimes and say things we don't mean, that's the case here, right?

[ July 14, 2003, 10:17 PM: Message edited by: timothy 1769 ]

 

[Wisdom Seeker]

Originally posted by Thankful:
How do you define feminist?

fem-i-nism (fRm2õ-n<=z1õm) n.
1. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.
2. The movement organized around this belief.
American Heritage Dictionary

I believe that I deserve the same pay as any male counterpart for the same work. And I believe that being female is not something that I should be ashamed of or made to feel is less than human, unworthy, more sinful, less intelligent, or sexually confused etc.

Even though I fit the description in the dictionary, I would prefer it if no one called me "femenist", as I don't think the people that use the term really care what it really means or indeed mean it to be complimentary when they attach the label to a person.

 

[Jim1999]

Brother Edifier said exactly what Iwould like to say very often when I am misquoted and credited for things unimaginable..some people just don't read!

Cheers,

Jim

 

[timothy 1769]

Originally posted by Jim1999:
Brother Edifier said exactly what Iwould like to say very often when I am misquoted and credited for things unimaginable..some people just don't read!

Cheers,

Jim

no, he insulted her intelligence - "hello! CAN you read?" if that's exactly the kind of thing you'd often like to say i'm glad you typically show more self control than brother edifier did this time.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by WisdomSeeker:
I believe that I deserve the same pay as any male counterpart for the same work. And I believe that being female is not something that I should be ashamed of or made to feel is less than human, unworthy, more sinful, less intelligent, or sexually confused etc.

Amen, Sister WisdomSeeker -- Preach it

 

[Ed Edwards]

Originally posted by Jim1999:
Brother Edifier said exactly what Iwould like to say very often when I am misquoted and credited for things unimaginable..some people just don't read!

Cheers,
Jim

Thank you, Brother Jim1999.

 

[Thankful]

Brother Timothy 1769

Does your computer show similey faces?

You will note that in Edifier's post, he used a confused smiley face which shows confusion on his part, not abuse toward someone, nor anger in disagreement with someone. It does not insult anyone's intelligence.

I know Brother Edifier very well

and know that he is never abusive and very, very slow to anger. He would never insult anyone.

I agree with you that HCL is a very intelligent woman who knows her Bible and I respect her for her personal convictions even though they are not mine.

 

[Wisdom Seeker]

Originally posted by Edifier:
Amen, Sister WisdomSeeker -- Preach it

Whoa whoa, hey hey, Bro. Ed you know how people feel about the idea of a woman preaching around here...what 'cha tryin' to do? Get me in trouble or somethin'?

 

[SaggyWoman]

Originally posted by Alexandra Spears:

That being said, I'm not sure about married women voting. Shouldn't the entire family be in agreement?

what I don't get is if we are discussing dinner and I want Chinese and he wants City Cafe, why do we have to be in agreement? We areln't always going to agree.

 

[SaggyWoman]

Originally posted by Thankful:


Should married women

1. Drive a car?

2. Own a car?

3. Own property?

4. Have a credit card?

5. Have any financial credit?

6. Have any money?

7. Have their own business (from their home

)?

8. Go out of the house alone without a chaperone?

9. Have their husbands chosen for them by their parents?

10. Walk ten paces behind their husband?

God forbid that any of us get married. Forgive me father, for I have sinned.

 

[Thankful]

Saggywoman

 

[ColoradoFB]

That list looks more like Islam than Christianity's view of women.

 

[Jim1999]

Originally posted by ColoradoFB:
That list looks more like Islam than Christianity's view of women.

_______________________________________________

There is a difference in some circles?

Cheers,

Jim