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What is Calvinism?

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SavedByGrace

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Are you saying that we hold to a false gospel. heresy, and so are not saved?

the "reformed/calvinstic" teaching on a restricted Death of the Lord Jesus Christ, in that He only died for "the elect", is a FALSE teaching. This means that this part of the Gospel Message, is indeed a "pseudo gospel", and one that is against the plain Teachings of the Holy Bible. As being such, it is none other than "heretical". This does NOT mean that those who hold such a view are unsaved, but deceived on this issue. This is what the Bible says.
 

SavedByGrace

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, so where does the scripture say that ?

you are a "reformed/calvinstic", and therefore not interested in knowing anying other than your "theology". I have seen you on here for a while, and you can no doubt see from my many threads/posts, on this very issue.
 

Yeshua1

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the "reformed/calvinstic" teaching on a restricted Death of the Lord Jesus Christ, in that He only died for "the elect", is a FALSE teaching. This means that this part of the Gospel Message, is indeed a "pseudo gospel", and one that is against the plain Teachings of the Holy Bible. As being such, it is none other than "heretical". This does NOT mean that those who hold such a view are unsaved, but deceived on this issue. This is what the Bible says.
Except that one cannot define that view as being heresy from the scriptures themselves, but have to base that upon personal views and feelings!
 

Strannik

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lol, so where does the scripture say that ?

8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened
Matthew 7:8

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²⁶ And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: ²⁷ And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. ²⁸ And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: ²⁹ For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.Matthew 7:26-29
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting lifeJohn 3:1-
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Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. ²⁹ Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. ³⁰ For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.Matthew 11:28-30
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SavedByGrace

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Except that one cannot define that view as being heresy from the scriptures themselves, but have to base that upon personal views and feelings!

there is absolutely no doubt to any open-minded Christian, that Bible verses like John 3:16; Luke 22:20; 1 Timothy 4:10; Acts 2:21; 1 John 2:2; 2 Peter 2:1, 3:9; Revelation 22:17, etc, etc, that Jesus Christ indeed died for the sins of the entire human race, all without exception, and that those who do "repent and believe" will be saved. This IS the Gospel of the Holy Bible. It is "reformed/calvinstic" teaching that has perverted this! There is not a single person who is "reformed/calvinstic", who has ever been able to deal with the fact, that Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, gave Judas, the very person who was to betray Him, the bread and wine, representing His Body and Blood. And told Judas that He was going to die for his sins! I have said this a number of times here, IF Jesus' Death was not for Judas, then WHY did He not wait a short while, when Judas would have left the room, and then given the bread and wine? The timing of Jesus is perfect, and recorded by the Greatest historian, Luke!
 

Alan Gross

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there is absolutely no doubt to any open-minded Christian, that Bible verses like John 3:16; Luke 22:20; 1 Timothy 4:10; Acts 2:21; 1 John 2:2; 2 Peter 2:1, 3:9; Revelation 22:17, etc, etc, that Jesus Christ indeed died for the sins of the entire human race, all without exception, and that those who do "repent and believe" will be saved. This IS the Gospel of the Holy Bible. It is "reformed/calvinstic" teaching that has perverted this! There is not a single person who is "reformed/calvinstic", who has ever been able to deal with the fact, that Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, gave Judas, the very person who was to betray Him, the bread and wine, representing His Body and Blood. And told Judas that He was going to die for his sins! I have said this a number of times here, IF Jesus' Death was not for Judas, then WHY did He not wait a short while, when Judas would have left the room, and then given the bread and wine? The timing of Jesus is perfect, and recorded by the Greatest historian, Luke!

your fleshly philosophy is fleshly philosophy.

Judas was a devil from the beginning.

"open-minded" is not The Mind of Christ.

The flesh is "open-minded" flesh.

You must be Born again of The Spirit is the Message of The Bible.

Those verses Teach nothing of Jesus "dying for everyone" to the Spiritual Mind that can be Taught The Word of God and what God is Expressing.
 

utilyan

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The Teaching of The Bible is that all souls PICK Eternal Salvation or Damnation in Hell like they PICK TOMATOES?

^“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”


God said don't pick a particular "Tomato".
 

Brightfame52

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you are a "reformed/calvinstic", and therefore not interested in knowing anying other than your "theology". I have seen you on here for a while, and you can no doubt see from my many threads/posts, on this very issue.
you are a "reformed/calvinstic", and therefore not interested in knowing anying other than your "theology". I have seen you on here for a while, and you can no doubt see from my many threads/posts, on this very issue.
I see you have no scripture.
 

Yeshua1

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there is absolutely no doubt to any open-minded Christian, that Bible verses like John 3:16; Luke 22:20; 1 Timothy 4:10; Acts 2:21; 1 John 2:2; 2 Peter 2:1, 3:9; Revelation 22:17, etc, etc, that Jesus Christ indeed died for the sins of the entire human race, all without exception, and that those who do "repent and believe" will be saved. This IS the Gospel of the Holy Bible. It is "reformed/calvinstic" teaching that has perverted this! There is not a single person who is "reformed/calvinstic", who has ever been able to deal with the fact, that Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, gave Judas, the very person who was to betray Him, the bread and wine, representing His Body and Blood. And told Judas that He was going to die for his sins! I have said this a number of times here, IF Jesus' Death was not for Judas, then WHY did He not wait a short while, when Judas would have left the room, and then given the bread and wine? The timing of Jesus is perfect, and recorded by the Greatest historian, Luke!
God did not intend to have all lost sinners sins atoned for and paid for by death of Lord Jesus....
 

Strannik

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[QUOTE = "Yeshua1, post: 2683471, member: 11334"] Бог не намеревался, чтобы все грехи потерянных грешников искупались и оплачивались смертью Господа Иисуса .... [/ QUOTE]

Yeah, now I see you're a Calvinist.
And what do these scriptures tell you:
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³⁰ And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Acts 17:30
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⁴ Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.1 Timothy 2:4
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¹¹ So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing¹¹ whereto I sent itIsaiah 55:11
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SavedByGrace

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all lost sinners sins atoned for and paid for

these are two different aspects of the Death of Jesus Christ. Jesus' Death did not "atone" for the sins of the whole world, which is the same as being "reconciled" to God. However, His death did "pay for" the sins of the whole world, as Jesus did for the sins of Judas!
 

Yeshua1

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these are two different aspects of the Death of Jesus Christ. Jesus' Death did not "atone" for the sins of the whole world, which is the same as being "reconciled" to God. However, His death did "pay for" the sins of the whole world, as Jesus did for the sins of Judas!
The death of Jesus was sufficient to have saved all lost sinners, but only applied towards the elect
 

Alan Gross

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The death of Jesus was sufficient to have saved all lost sinners, but only applied towards the elect

When will the assumption that 'world' can only, possibly, mean one of a dozen or more usages in The Bible become pure simple-minded ignorance?
 
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