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WHAT IS GRACE?

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Yelsew, Jul 1, 2003.

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  1. Singer

    Singer New Member

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    This is from the bottom of Page 3 (This thread).

    Grace is free unmerited favor, favor being a gift. The grace provides
    mankind with the free gift of God: eternal life (Rom.6:23). It is free; I simply
    receive it by faith. It is unmerited; there is no work that I can do to pay
    for it. It is a gift to be received freely by faith. What else would a "favor" be?
    ( DHK)

    See, as well versed as you are in grace and salvation, you too make the mistake of
    confusing the Gift, which is Jesus the Christ. (Yelsew)


    Grace is not the gift that God gives. Grace is the "attitude in which God gives his Gift of eternal life though faith in his son. (Yelsew)

    Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, but it just struck me that
    DHK is saying that Grace is the gift to be received freely by faith while
    Yelsew said that Grace is not the gift; Jesus is.

    I always considered the verse below to refer to Jesus.
    Maybe not. How does it appear to you guys..?

    II Cor. 9:15 Thanks [be] unto God for his unspeakable gift.
     
    #61 Singer, Jul 10, 2003
  2. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

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    Read carefully. Even when Yelsew refers to grace as an attitude he still says that it is a gift.
    It God's free unmerited favor. Favor is just about the same as "gift."
     
    #62 DHK, Jul 10, 2003
  3. Yelsew

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    God does not have to behave in accordance with his grace, but because he does, it is a gift of God to us because if he behaved toward us in accordance with his justice, not one of us would survive long enough to believe in Him.

    The Gift that he gave to us which we must receive is His Son Jesus. You see, we do not have to acknowledge God in his Grace in order to be saved. There is no scripture that says we do. But we must accept God's gift of Jesus which was given to us in God's grace toward us in order to be saved from the lake of fire, and into eternal life. And there are many scriptures that say so!
     
    #63 Yelsew, Jul 10, 2003
  4. Singer

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    Okay, we got that issue settled once and for all time.

    Do you want to notify the RCC on the needed change or shall we just
    let the Holy Spirit do the convicting?

    :D
     
    #64 Singer, Jul 10, 2003
  5. Yelsew

    Yelsew Guest

    Would you handle that little detail for me? I'm not on too good of terms with the pope. I always bypass him when talking to God, and he don't like that much.
     
    #65 Yelsew, Jul 10, 2003
  6. Singer

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    Why You Sinner You....Yelsew..!!

    I suppose you've been missing Mass too and that's a mortal
    sin ya know. Maybe we'll let the HS take care of that little task.
     
    #66 Singer, Jul 10, 2003
  7. Yelsew

    Yelsew Guest

    Stop it, you're killing me! I knew I could count on you to leave it up to the HS.
     
    #67 Yelsew, Jul 11, 2003
  8. Singer

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    :cool:
     
    #68 Singer, Jul 11, 2003
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