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what is repentance?
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Brother Bob
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I have often gone to God and said "I repent" and intended to try, yet again, to avoid, escape, resist a certain temptation, and wondered if I should feel more regret (usually disgust is my primary emotion). And then I wonder if my repentance is genuine if I don't feel sorry enough to not commit that sin again.
But emotions don't make me saved, and I don't think they make me repentant either--though they can sure help.
But emotions don't make me saved, and I don't think they make me repentant either--though they can sure help.
Brother Bob
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If he is not one with a conscious seared with a hot iron, then I don't know who would be.BBob, Please don't take my comments personally.
Then, let him go to God and quit saying that he has no conscience. Let God deal with him, for only God knows whether his repentance is genuine or not.__________________
BBob,
Brother Bob
That one liner didn't prove one must feel sorry for sins in order to repent. Forget about Ted Bundy, think of someone who is committing fornication or adultery instead.
Oh, and what about King David? That guy grabbed Bathsheba, messed with her and then killed her poor husband. David was a nut, but he repented. He must have since I read God said he was a man after his own heart. What about that story?
That one liner didn't prove one must feel sorry for sins in order to repent. Forget about Ted Bundy, think of someone who is committing fornication or adultery instead.
Oh, and what about King David? That guy grabbed Bathsheba, messed with her and then killed her poor husband. David was a nut, but he repented. He must have since I read God said he was a man after his own heart. What about that story?
Brother Bob said:If he is not one with a conscious seared with a hot iron, then I don't know who would be.
BBob,
Let me ask you this Bob, Do you know of anyone who has taken the gospel to him and he has rejected it time and time again?
Brother Bob said:If he is not one with a conscious seared with a hot iron, then I don't know who would be.
BBob,
Which is worse: What Saul of Tarsus did, or What Ted Bundy did?
Brother Bob
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I can only give you my own personal experience and can't speak for others. I came to the point I said: God if its you will that I die, let it be so, but save my dying soul. I gave it all and that was 35 years ago and have never found a place to turn around .I have often gone to God and said "I repent" and intended to try, yet again, to avoid, escape, resist a certain temptation, and wondered if I should feel more regret (usually disgust is my primary emotion). And then I wonder if my repentance is genuine if I don't feel sorry enough to not commit that sin again.
But emotions don't make me saved, and I don't think they make me repentant either--though they can sure help.
Chessic said:I have often gone to God and said "I repent" and intended to try, yet again, to avoid, escape, resist a certain temptation, and wondered if I should feel more regret (usually disgust is my primary emotion). And then I wonder if my repentance is genuine if I don't feel sorry enough to not commit that sin again.
But emotions don't make me saved, and I don't think they make me repentant either--though they can sure help.
Yes, emotions sure can help with repentance. Amen to that. But if it's not possible, then it's not. No worries.
Keep trying.
Hey notice TCGreek is a Pastor as is Brother Bob except what BB is saying is very wrong.
Brother Bob
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I told you that some would disagree with me and thats fine. I am not here to say you are wrong. I am telling how it was with me and I do believe that a person becomes sorry. Can you prove that David did not feel sorry when he repented?Brother Bob
That one liner didn't prove one must feel sorry for sins in order to repent. Forget about Ted Bundy, think of someone who is committing fornication or adultery instead.
Oh, and what about King David? That guy grabbed Bathsheba, messed with her and then killed her poor husband. David was a nut, but he repented. He must have since I read God said he was a man after his own heart. What about that story?
Please explain? You have not right to say I am wrong, you do not know if I am wrong or not. Maybe its you that is wrong. You already admitted you should not of used Ted Bundy.Hey notice TCGreek is a Pastor as is Brother Bob except what BB is saying is very wrong.
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I don't need to, this is not something I am objecting to. I am saying it is not a requirement.Brother Bob said:Can you prove that David did not feel sorry when he repented?
Your post that I didn't quote is showing you backtracking to say you have only stated your opinion from your experience.
My concern is, you as a Pastor, need to be more careful. This is a stumbling block for many people when others state they believe sorrow is a requirement to repentance. People need to know they can do God's will, even when they do not feel like it.
Brother Bob said:You already admitted you should not of used Ted Bundy.
Yes, I think it was a bad example. But still, we don't know what happened with him.
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Brother Bob
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Don't make false statements about me. At least get it right.I told you that some would disagree with me and thats fine. I am not here to say you are wrong. I am telling how it was with me and I do believe that a person becomes sorry. Can you prove that David did not feel sorry when he repented?
If you want to uphold someone like Ted Bundy and put down someone like me who has been a ordained minister for 34 years and a Pastor for 26, "go for it".Yes, I think he was a bad example but still, we don't know what happened with him. Our opinions are not fact.
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Brother Bob you are quoting yourself in post 33 and blaming me for making false statements about you. That quote you bolded is from YOU not me. It originated in your post #16. Only the second quote was written by me.
Are you feeling ok?
You stated that yourself, and now you are refuting you own words. What gives?
We better end this conversation before it gets more confusing
Are you feeling ok?
You stated that yourself, and now you are refuting you own words. What gives?
We better end this conversation before it gets more confusing
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Brother Bob
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Are you feeling ok?Brother Bob you are quoting yourself in post 33 and blaming me for making false statements about you. That quote you bolded is from YOU not me. Only the second quote was written by me.
Are you feeling ok?
You stated that yourself, and now you are refuting yourself. What gives?
We better end this conversation before it gets more confusing
I bolded I do believe that a person becomes sorry because you said I was backtracking from saying, I believe you have to become sorry.
Tell me something Joe, did you feel "worthy" or did you feel unworthy to receive salvation???
Brother Bob
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I believe that to be a sorrowful condition.I felt unworthy
Brother Bob
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Sorry but you lost me here.Whew!
By the way, I get confused easily but I don't deliberately change other people's words. Especially yours, since I like you and look forward to reading your posts.