Is the gospel the only thing we can offer, or the only thing we should? Does our citizenship and other deeds help in any way? Our testimony, for example? Our revealing of certain truths?
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What is the Christian theological response to racism?
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Is the gospel the only thing we can offer, or the only thing we should? Does our citizenship and other deeds help in any way? Our testimony, for example? Our revealing of certain truths?
A good example for this topic may be the Ty Cobb story. He has the reputation for being a terrible racist and a dirty player.
But is this true?
Calling Good People "Racist" Isn't New: the Case of Ty Cobb
Does it matter?
But is this true?
Calling Good People "Racist" Isn't New: the Case of Ty Cobb
Does it matter?
In your OP, one of your questions was:
What are some worldly ideas we can correct?
My post, concerning the prophecies that Noah pronounced on his sons, demonstrate the Sovereignty of God and that He has license to do as he sees fit according to His will.
This materialistic and status conscious world pushes the lie that all men are created equal. This lie, which is perpetually pushed, helps sustain a culture of envy and unrealistic expectations.
Romans chapter 9 totally debunks this false narrative. The truth is that we are all born into greatly differing circumstances. Thru Christ, we can and should become content in varying circumstances. Absent Christ, good luck.
Life is not fair but Christ gives us what we need to endure and overcome in this world. Those without Christ are not equipped as we are to endure and overcome. If life was fair then what would there be to overcome.
The answer to all things is Christ. But Christ is not what our politicians, media, and most clergy are promoting.
Agree, and I totally trust his judgment.
This is the part I'm not clear on. Created equal in worth before God is a truth we can embrace. The fact that some are born into humble circumstances, doesn't change that.
Which to me, sounds like we're all equal before God. You seem to be arguing humans are born into different economic statuses, which is correct.
That's why I was confused by your statement which talked about creation, rather than our decision for Christ. Yes, being in Christ gives us status to enter the millennial kingdom. Until then, our worldly status remains that of servants to our fellow man.
Ultimate sense, its giving forth the Lord Jesus!
I agree, but this is in God's timing. Some are ready for salvation, others are not. In the meantime, does the testimony of words and deeds matter?
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There is only one race. The human race.
Yes they do, but we need to stay focused on Jesus as Lord is what seems to be the main missing point!
Another truth we can offer the world is that police and law enforcement are from God. Paul described them as God's ministers.
The modern anti-police movement, which seems to have gone global, is no doubt from the devil. No Christians should support this, let alone any sane person. But that shows me this is from the devil. Only he could put people in such a trance as to support this.
Rom. 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.
The modern anti-police movement, which seems to have gone global, is no doubt from the devil. No Christians should support this, let alone any sane person. But that shows me this is from the devil. Only he could put people in such a trance as to support this.
Acts of the Apostles 17:26.
Wow, one blood speaks to a human family. The redeemed are also a family within the family so to speak. Thank you.
No one denies Jesus and the gospel are the end goal. But I don't think trying to do good and point out God's truths gets in the way of that. To use a colloquialism, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. (I don't mean that offensively, in any way)
In fact I would argue that doing good adds to the testimony of what Christ did in our lives. It goes hand in hand with the message of the gospel.
We also have to keep in mind, we're ministering to believing citizens also. They too need reminding of biblical wisdom in regard to these issues.
His Gleaning In Genesis for me personally is an excellent read and I highly recommend it... Brother Glen
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does not say race! and there are at least a dozen blood types - so when I get time......
in fact - if given the wrong blood type - it could kill you
Miss E
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I don't condone and I don't think the Bible condones racism or superiority of one race over another. But I have known in my personal experience some people use the curse of Ham in the OT as a basis for saying that blacks are inferior and "cursed" among the races, by pointing back to that story in the Bible.
https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dmg2/comsalz3 as publ. with additions.pdf
This is a long read but if anyone wants to see where the origin of racism by actual Christians (misguided as they were and still are imo) was found, that's a nice bit of enlightenment.
I think a thread (if there isn't one already) on ancestral curses would be an interesting and worthwhile topic of discussion as they were written about in the Bible. Do I believe people can become cursed by unrepentant sin and turning away from God? Yes, do I think they can pass that on to their offspring? Maybe so. I'd like to see what other people would have to say on that topic, but as far as the racism here goes, it's simply not biblical to think oneself superior over another person based on the color of ones' skin. And that goes both ways, as I know blacks who are racist against whites and would sooner have themselves be over them (as a payback of sorts and revenge) from when there were white slaveholders in the past. Do I think I need to be judged and punished for the sins of my great-grandfathers? No, but you see people feeling those sort of ways to any white person they see. And then of course you have the white people, especially baby boomers, who have racism ingrained in them from when the country did segregate by color. I think racism is a sin everyone should repent of if they have it, whether they realize it or not, and it is really a sin of judging and hatred, aren't we called to love everyone? and to treat others how we ought to be treated?
Thoughts?
https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dmg2/comsalz3 as publ. with additions.pdf
This is a long read but if anyone wants to see where the origin of racism by actual Christians (misguided as they were and still are imo) was found, that's a nice bit of enlightenment.
I think a thread (if there isn't one already) on ancestral curses would be an interesting and worthwhile topic of discussion as they were written about in the Bible. Do I believe people can become cursed by unrepentant sin and turning away from God? Yes, do I think they can pass that on to their offspring? Maybe so. I'd like to see what other people would have to say on that topic, but as far as the racism here goes, it's simply not biblical to think oneself superior over another person based on the color of ones' skin. And that goes both ways, as I know blacks who are racist against whites and would sooner have themselves be over them (as a payback of sorts and revenge) from when there were white slaveholders in the past. Do I think I need to be judged and punished for the sins of my great-grandfathers? No, but you see people feeling those sort of ways to any white person they see. And then of course you have the white people, especially baby boomers, who have racism ingrained in them from when the country did segregate by color. I think racism is a sin everyone should repent of if they have it, whether they realize it or not, and it is really a sin of judging and hatred, aren't we called to love everyone? and to treat others how we ought to be treated?
Thoughts?
Now the Democrats are including in their rhetoric that the Confederates were Traitors. Deliberately provocative rhetoric designed to divide the nation even further. The Democrats despise and seek to destroy America. They are doing Satan's bidding.
By their loose and deviant interpretation, All Americans would be Traitors for rebelling against the British. Which is exactly what King George labeled our founding fathers.
By their loose and deviant interpretation, All Americans would be Traitors for rebelling against the British. Which is exactly what King George labeled our founding fathers.
Know that Joseph Smith and the other Mormon prophets and Apostles saw Blacks cursed by God for this, until God suddenly changed his mind per them 1978!
As well as polygamy - they were given a vision to end it when Congress said no Statehood until Utah outlawed polygamy!