What is the point of this verse?

We're not faulting you, BB. I just pray that your beliefs don't some day do damage to a believer in your church who struggles with sin....any sin, not the ones you want to classify as being worse than others. This may open the door to them thinking they can commit certain sins that "are not as bad".

 

Nighty-night...err....Morny-morny

 

My members would not even come back to church if I allowed someone like that to stay among us. Not one member would come back and I would not blame them. I still say this is why there are so many among us that do such things.
I will never forget when Swaggert stood up and said "I have sinned" and got a standing ovation. Made me sick to my stomach.

 

Amen.:thumbs:

 

To this I would have to agree. He did say "brother" when speaking about the sin unto death.

 

I don't really disagree with this except what the sins are maybe.

 

I disagree. If you overtake a brother in sin then he must not be in a sin unto death for it says to try and help him. but goes on and says there is a sin and there is a sin unto death and I would not say to pray for it. Well, the person was not dead and we all have seen sin that was terrible and yet they lived. I wonder if this Haggard will live.

 

Bob, what would you define as "a sin unto death?" Does John give a definition. And more importantly, does John forbid prayer for one in such a shape? Or does he just not give the command to pray for such a one? I am not trying to get you tag teamed. I just want your take on this, because you have said some things that seem to reflect that what you have said is a mixture of what you believe the Bible teaches, but also seems to be church policy in play as well.

 

Let me put it this way.

Homo is surely one of them.

 

What else? Bob, how would you know what to pray for & what not under that standard? Are you saying that you cant pray for this preacher? If your answer be yes, then, what is your authority for this? Your supposition that this is the sin intended? Are you willing to stand on that?

 

I use Ten Commandments as Paul did for they sure killed him. I was once alive without the Law the Commandments came sin revived and I died. He even quoted some of them as Jesus did. Now I know you all will have something to say about the Law of Moses but I use what Jesus used and that was Ten Commandments. Now, if you lie that is up to you but don't accuse me of it. My Bible says them that maketh a lie will not be in Heaven, so lie if you want.

 

You are so wrong most of the time James. If I make a mistake it is not false witness. You are accusing me of something I did not do. You need to apologize to me for making a false statement about me. Now as far as false witness it is to condemn the Free-wills while being a member of a Free-will church and all the time being a Calvinist. Now that is false witnessing and being a hypocrit.

 

10 commandments? Bob, do you not realize that Christ handed down thousands of commandments while on earth? Your going to reduce all those to just 10 to be the most important? Did Christ not say that all those hung on 2 Commandments? And are you going to say that you have loved thy neighbour as your self all the time? or for that matter loved the Lord your God with ALL your heart all the time? Christ said "If you love me, keep my commandments" Have you broken any of his commandments since you were saved?

 

No, it would not be right. If I made a mistake is one thing, if I were kidding you is another but if I attempted to deceive you then yes.

I don't wager for that is sin also.

 

Do you accept the word of the Lord for He said on these two hang ALL the Law and the prophets. For once be honest.

 

You think this is impossible?