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WHAT kind of "PHOBE" are you?

church mouse guy

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Or perhaps the NAACP?

There is a marked difference between the use of an historical name and the use of a term to insult or belittle.

Calling someone the "N" word or a Negro in 2014 in the United States is as insulting as George Jefferson referring to Tom Willis as a "honkey" or Archie Bunker calling someone a "spic" or a "spade".

Well, I think that those historical terms need to be modernized.
 

Zaac

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Well, I think that those historical terms need to be modernized.

No need to. Most people understand the historical context in which these trademarked historical terms are used.

The only time anyone makes any noise about the terms being used historically is when they want to portray black people as hypocritical for using the terms but not wanting anyone else to use the terms.
 

Zaac

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Do as I say not as I do is one of the major causes of global warming.

And that's why everyone is being encouraged to treat others as they would want to be treated.

If you were black and didn't want to be called a Negro by white people, I would hope that folks would have enough of the compassion of Christ to put themselves in the same place to understand .
 

InTheLight

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And that's why everyone is being encouraged to treat others as they would want to be treated.

If you were black and didn't want to be called a Negro by white people, I would hope that folks would have enough of the compassion of Christ to put themselves in the same place to understand .

Yes, one could hope. Only the person being offended can say for sure if they are being offended.

But yet, you have people that will vigorously stand up and proclaim that there is nothing wrong with the name of the Washington NFL team, and if native Americans don't like it, it's tough, and besides the ones protesting it aren't a majority.
 

Zaac

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Yes, one could hope. Only the person being offended can say for sure if they are being offended.

But yet, you have people that will vigorously stand up and proclaim that there is nothing wrong with the name of the Washington NFL team, and if native Americans don't like it, it's tough, and besides the ones protesting it aren't a majority.

When a term is used to insult and disparage an entire group of people, I say you bite the bullet and change the name.

If the owners were Christians, I would hope that they could see past the money and just do the right thing. But the Redskins, my co-favorite team with the Cowboys, is a brand and the owners don't want to let it go.

The Washington Redskins are the third most valuable NFL team behind the Cowboys and The Patriots. They will give up that name goodwill kicking and screaming. :laugh:
 

InTheLight

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When a term is used to insult and disparage an entire group of people, I say you bite the bullet and change the name.

If the owners were Christians, I would hope that they could see past the money and just do the right thing. But the Redskins is a brand and the owners don't want to let it go.

The Washington Redskins are the third most valuable NFL team behind the Cowboys and The Patriots. They will give up that name goodwill kicking and screaming. :laugh:

Agree with everything you wrote above (after my edit :laugh:). Personally, I'm not offended by the name but if some people are, we ought not to dismiss their concerns.
 

carpro

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Agree with everything you wrote above (after my edit :laugh:). Personally, I'm not offended by the name but if some people are, we ought not to dismiss their concerns.

Baloney. They need to get a life.

It's a football team, not a PC statement.
 

Salty

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Some say the word Negro is insulting.

If I am not mistaken - there are other countries in the world - that do use that term - without an insulting intent.

For example, In Portugal ,

So if a Black was to go to such a country and was called a Negro - should he feel insulted or realize he is in a different culture?

When a term is used to insult and disparage an entire group of people, I say you bite the bullet and change the name.
First, the name Redskins is NOT an insult.
If you were to ask Indians why is the term Redskin an insult - I would contend, many would have no ideal - only that they have been told its an insult.

Now, Zaac I have a question for you - do you consider the nickname for Wake Forest to be an insult - The Demon Deacons?, how about the American (Baseball) league franchise that was formerly known as the Devil Rays?
 
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Alcott

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And that's why everyone is being encouraged to treat others as they would want to be treated.

If you were black and didn't want to be called a Negro by white people, I would hope that folks would have enough of the compassion of Christ to put themselves in the same place to understand .

How "compassionate" was Christ when he told the gentile woman who wanted him to heal her daughter, "It isn't right to take the children's food and throw it to the dogs"?

ed. There is no reason to quote her answer and the final result, as I know it well, and we're talking about labels and epithets, aren't we?
 
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Zaac

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Some say the word Negro is insulting.

If I am not mistaken - there are other countries in the world - that do use that term - without an insulting intent.

For example, In Portugal ,

So if a Black was to go to such a country and was called a Negro - should he feel insulted or realize he is in a different culture?

Perhaps it's because other countries don't have the same history of treating Blacks in the same manner as they were treated in the US? Whites did not begin to call Blacks Negroes in this country out of an affinity for them or because the Spanish for their skin color was negro.

Most black people have brown-toned skin and the Spanish word for that is marron. They didn't start calling themselves Negroes.

First, the name Redskins is NOT an insult.

To some it is.

If you were to ask Indians why is the term Redskin an insult - I would contend, many would have no ideal - only that they have been told its an insult.

Same thing with the "N" word. Just because they don't know doesn't make it less of an insult.

Now, Zaac I have a question for you - do you consider the nickname for Wake Forest to be an insult - The Demon Deacons?, how about the American (Baseball) league franchise that was formerly known as the Devil Rays?

Is there a people group called the Demon Deacons or the Devil Rays?
 

Zaac

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Baloney. They need to get a life.

It's a football team, not a PC statement.

It's 1/32 of a quasi-company called the NFL. The NFL is a brand that operates off its image. That's why they are in fix it mode over the domestic abuse.

When the public starts to turn against you, you protect your money. The other 31 teams are not going to take the PR nightmare just because 1 team wants to keep a name.
 

righteousdude2

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How 'bout dem Saints?

Some say the word Negro is insulting.

If I am not mistaken - there are other countries in the world - that do use that term - without an insulting intent.

For example, In Portugal ,

So if a Black was to go to such a country and was called a Negro - should he feel insulted or realize he is in a different culture?


First, the name Redskins is NOT an insult.
If you were to ask Indians why is the term Redskin an insult - I would contend, many would have no ideal - only that they have been told its an insult.

Now, Zaac I have a question for you - do you consider the nickname for Wake Forest to be an insult - The Demon Deacons?, how about the American (Baseball) league franchise that was formerly known as the Devil Rays?

Talking about names of teams, the atheists of our nation have been asleep at the wheel. Shouldn't they be upset with a team that calls themselves the "Saints?"
 

Zaac

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I am insulted by the use of the name Viking... especially after last night. :laugh:

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Crabtownboy

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Some say the word Negro is insulting.

If I am not mistaken - there are other countries in the world - that do use that term - without an insulting intent.

You are quite correct. The last time I was in Brazil I saw a young black man wearing a T-shirt. On the front of the shirt were the words:

"100% Negro."

At that time I thought, appropriate in Brazil but not such a good idea to wear this shirt in the States. There are cultural differences.
 

church mouse guy

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NAACP & UNCF are misleading and send a message that these terms are okay sometimes when they are not okay all the time. Hypocrisy has been determined to be the sole cause of global warming.
 
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