What Needs to Happen to END Racial Unrest?

[Salty]

Perhaps it would help if there wasn't such an acrimonious response by so many white people every time Blacks complain about racial injustices.

Perhaps it would help if folks realized that there is not one person alive who was slave or a slave owner.

There have been four black ELECTED Senators in all of American history.Blacks are 13% of the population, but make up only 2% of the Senate.

and what are the Stats for Latinos, Indians, Orientals, ect..

44 Presidents. 1 Black.

Actually that is incorrect - we have one mulatto President.

Now you take the vast underrepresentation of ANYBODY but white people historically in the majority of "power" positions, and it may start to scratch the surface of why things aren't as rosy from the perspective of black people as a lot of white people seem to think.

Does the same go for when I lived in West Virginia and all five members of the US Congress was Democrat? and about 95% of the State House/Senate was Democrat?

 

[Zaac]

I do not have the power of salvation.

I didn't say you did. I said "save". You said "salvation".

Congressional acts and court rulings have gone from "you cannot gerrymander" to "you must gerrymander." They have districts drawn deliberately to affect about 60-65% black.

How many are drawn deliberately to skew towards Whites being elected? Seeing as Blacks represent a little over 8% in the House and Latinos a little over 6%, yet the two combined are about 30% of the US population, there must be more gerrymandering for the majority taking place according to that logic.

And since blacks vote 95% Democratic, the only way a black would not win the Democratic primary and the general election is if they don't vote in enough numbers. Do you disagree?

I think you're confusing how folks voted in a Presidential election with how they vote in state and local elections.

As was said in a sitcom, "A black man can't be a racist, son." And that has been affirmed by black speakers and columnists.

foolishness

So they can have laws in their favor, "affirmative action" that requires employers to hire or promote less qualified minorities over whites (or males),

Umm, that's not affirmative action. Affirmative action specifically deals with candidates who are equally qualified based upon a position's requirements. A lot of folks, like yourself, seem to be under the impression that the minorities are less qualified when AA is used. That is 100% NOT AA.

voting districts drawn to favor them, and you still hear they battle racists, which they cannot be. That's flup! [a word I just thunk up that should not get this post censored]

Again, how is the majority who is doing the things that they say are being done gonna tell them to any degree that they aren't experiencing what they think they are?

Exactly what is it? That racism is entirely legal, but discrimination ain't? Okay; but if not that, what?

Hey, you seem to be one of the many in the majority who is confused about racism and discrimination based upon your AA response.

What's your solution? More mind control, which the leftist media has so largely (and successfully) connived already?

The Hannityies and Limbaughs of the right seem to have done quite the job of mind control too. Might explain why at any point during the day O can hear folks on hear repeating the same things I've heard on talk radio. :laugh:

I'm sure you've heard a lot of "f-bombs" as some people refer to them, then, as well as a lot of "whites are racists; blacks can't be..." And do you think they don't create the impressions, and therefore reactions, to them? as by wearing pants that expose underwear, driving with windows up and rap "music" pounding, talking and laughing so loudly, and then with jerks like

Again, confusion. You've got more white people doing these things than you do black people doing it.

Sharpton, who went to Duke University to see that 'justice' is done for a black woman who concocted a rape story?

You sound like one of those stereotyping folks who think AL Sharpton is the de facto leader of black people. Gosh did Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms represent all white people?

accompanied by all the threats and harassment of students and faculty, banging pots and pans outside the coach's house before sunup, and all that. Those guys are lucky you didn't serve on a jury that hear their case.

I just don't know what this has to do with anything.

 

[carpro]

There have been four black ELECTED Senators in all of American history.Blacks are 13% of the population, but make up only 2% of the Senate.

Sounds good in a sound bite , but

those are really meaningless statistics unless you mean to imply that we should vote according to skin color and nothing else.

If you go by numbers you have quoted and it takes 50% of the vote to get elected, there would never be a black senator.

Unless a whole bunch of white people vote for the black candidate. That doesn't exactly scream racism or you'd never get a black person elected.

 

[Zaac]

Perhaps it would help if folks realized that there is not one person alive who was slave or a slave owner.

Again with the politics. The majority has adopted this notion that Blacks are hung up on slavery. It's the majority that likes to make known that they aren't slave owners. It's an IGNORANT statement to make.

Blacks are well aware that no one currently alive was responsible for slavery.

They also know that they deal with enough 21st century prejudice and discrimination and racism that there's no need to even speak of slavery.

It seems to be the majority who are hung up on slavery and this "I don't own any slaves line" that started with talk radio.

But as I've said so may times in the past, some of yall respond too often out of politics and not out of love. And it causes you to not listen to what they are saying.

and what are the Stats for Latinos, Indians, Orientals, ect..

Irrelevant as you are well aware that the race relation problem being spoken to is Black vs White.

Actually that is incorrect - we have one mulatto President.

Yeah, you go ahead and be politically correct. His skin identifies him as a black man. And whether or not it is kosher to admit it, that's what anyone who looks at him sees.

Does the same go for when I lived in West Virginia and all five members of the US Congress was Democrat? and about 95% of the State House/Senate was Democrat?

How many of them looked like the majority?

 

[Zaac]

Sounds good in a sound bite , but

those are really meaningless statistics unless you mean to imply that we should vote according to skin color and nothing else.

If you go by numbers you have quoted and it takes 50% of the vote to get elected, there would never be a black senator.

Unless a whole bunch of white people vote for the black candidate. That doesn't exactly scream racism or you'd never get a black person elected.

I didn't mean any such thing. It was simply meant to highlight again that representation in Congress and historically in the White House is just a couple of many things that Blacks can quickly point to as to why things aren't as rosy as a lot of folks in the majority seem to think.

 

[Rippon]

It was simply meant to highlight again that representation in Congress and historically in the White House is just a couple of many things that Blacks can quickly point to as to why things aren't as rosy as a lot of folks in the majority seem to think.

Blacks have to run for political office first. Don't cry discrimination at the drop of a hat.

The Furguson police force is 94% white. But whose fault is that? Blacks have to qualify to go to the police academy. How many are even interested? How many would qualify with their educational level? How many would qualify with crime-free backgrounds?

I think older blacks --say 70 years of age or more, have some perspective and would acknowledge that things are a lot better than they were.

 

[carpro]

I didn't mean any such thing. It was simply meant to highlight again that representation in Congress and historically in the White House is just a couple of many things that Blacks can quickly point to as to why things aren't as rosy as a lot of folks in the majority seem to think.

Using a meaningless statistic does not make your point and really shouldn't be "pointed to" unless you are asking to be ignored.

 

[Zaac]

Blacks have to run for political office first. Don't cry discrimination at the drop of a hat.

The Furguson police force is 94% white. But whose fault is that?

The Ferguson police department.

Blacks have to qualify to go to the police academy.

Who sets the qualifications?

How many are even interested?

You'd have to ask them.

How many would qualify with their educational level?

If you could qualify, I'm sure there are plenty of black people in Ferguson who could qualify.

How many would qualify with crime-free backgrounds?

More racial stereotyping.

I think older blacks --say 70 years of age or more, have some perspective and would acknowledge that things are a lot better than they were.

You need to talk to some more older Blacks.

 

[Zaac]

Using a meaningless statistic does not make your point and really shouldn't be "pointed to" unless you are asking to be ignored.

You thinking it's a meaningless statistic further highlights why black people put so many of the old majority on ignore. Nothing is relevant to that majority if it's not about them. :laugh:

 

[Rippon]

Who sets the qualifications?

I'm sure they have standardized qualifications for everyone.

You'd have to ask them.

Most young black people in Ferguson would not be interested in joining the Police Department.

I'm sure there are plenty of black people in Ferguson who could qualify.

That's highly unlikely.

More racial stereotyping.

To say that many young blacks in Ferguson have crime-free backgrounds would be silly.

You need to talk to some more older Blacks.

As I said black folks over 70 would have a better perspective of things. Conditions have improved for them. Listen to Bill Cosby sometime. He's nearing 80. Right now blacks are holding blacks back --not whites. Give a listen to Charles Barkley.

 

[Zaac]

I'm sure they have standardized qualifications for everyone.

Based upon what? Who set the standardized qualifications. If said standardized qualifications are what is being used to select who is qualified to be a police officer in Ferguson, then the DOJ may want to check into whether or not said qualifications are illegally discriminatory.

And seeing as there is a 67%+ black population and a 94%+ white police force, I'd say there's a good chance the "standardized qualifiers" are possibly illegally discriminatory.

Most young black people in Ferguson would not be interested in joining the Police Department.

If white people had to grow up in an area that was policed primarily by Blacks, they probably wouldn't want to be police either. Some times economics prevents people from getting away from such situations.

That's highly unlikely.

Why? Do you know all of the black people in Ferguson to be dumber than the white officers on the force?

To say that many young blacks in Ferguson have crime-free backgrounds would be silly.

Why? Are we to assume now that all black people are criminals? Is it any sillier to assume that many white police officers in Ferguson are racially prejudiced and out to kill Blacks?

As I said black folks over 70 would have a better perspective of things. Conditions have improved for them. Listen to Bill Cosby sometime.

Pure foolishness. Bill Cosby doesn't share the same perspective as the majority of the folks, black or white in Ferguson. He's worth over $300 million dollars so I'm sure he does think things are better than when he was growing up.

Right now blacks are holding blacks back --not whites. Give a listen to Charles Barkley.

Again, you're talking about a multimillionaire. I'm sure things are better for him :laugh:

 

[carpro]

You thinking it's a meaningless statistic further highlights why black people put so many of the old majority on ignore. Nothing is relevant to that majority if it's not about them. :laugh:

Of course, it's meaningless.

From a purely statistical standpoint, a black person would never get elected. We wouldn't have any.

For instance, I would imagine that , in some states the population of blacks is significantly higher than 13%. OTOH In some states, they don't hardly know what a black person looks like, there are so few.

Your statistic is absolutely meaningless. It means less than nothing.

It's completely laughable that you hang your hat on such meaningless statistics.

I know you get it. You just hate to let go of such a juicy stupid little soundbite.

 

[Salty]

From the newspaper

 

[Zaac]

From the newspaper

As the article explains, the police departments are eager to hire more black officers, but it’s very difficult for them to do so given that: (1) very few blacks are interested in serving as police officers; (2) of those interested, relatively few of them have the skills to qualify; and (3) nearly all of those who are both qualified to serve and interested in serving have higher-paying opportunities available to them elsewhere, in the police departments of larger cities.

SO I ask again. Who set the standard for what the qualifying skills are for the Ferguson PD? Contrary to some people's expressed opinion, there are obviously black people capable and interested.

What is it about the qualifying skills

In a place that's 67+% black people, they could only find 5 who are qualified and interested to serve?

Not buying it. When you've got that type of disparity of numbers, there is generally something else going on. That's why the DOJ needs to investigate.

 

[Alcott]

How many are drawn deliberately to skew towards Whites being elected? Seeing as Blacks represent a little over 8% in the House and Latinos a little over 6%, yet the two combined are about 30% of the US population, there must be more gerrymandering for the majority taking place according to that logic.

Not if they vote in same proportions as whites. And you obviously assume people do, and should, vote for their own race.

I think you're confusing how folks voted in a Presidential election with how they vote in state and local elections.

I hold that American voting is the opposite of what it should be, in that the more national an election [president, US senator], the more attention it gets, down to the local level, where it gets the least. The more local, the more the elections affect our lives. Do you claim that is a confused position?

foolishness

What is? That a black man can't be a racist, or that I say that's an idiot notion?

Umm, that's not affirmative action. Affirmative action specifically deals with candidates who are equally qualified based upon a position's requirements. A lot of folks, like yourself, seem to be under the impression that the minorities are less qualified when AA is used. That is 100% NOT AA.

I would like to see that proved.

Again, how is the majority who is doing the things that they say are being done gonna tell them to any degree that they aren't experiencing what they think they are?

Quoting from your post, I don't even know what this gibberish is your response to. It sounds like a creating-one's-own reality concept.

Hey, you seem to be one of the many in the majority who is confused about racism and discrimination based upon your AA response.

I've never been to AA.

The Hannityies and Limbaughs of the right seem to have done quite the job of mind control too. Might explain why at any point during the day O can hear folks on hear repeating the same things I've heard on talk radio.

Many left and right positions on many issues are stated on talk radio before I 'hear' them hear (sic). MNBC is a mouthpiece for the socialist party. But "mind control," of course, means pushing an issue I am against. Correct?

Again, confusion. You've got more white people doing these things than you do black people doing it.

Oh? What is your current count?

You sound like one of those stereotyping folks who think AL Sharpton is the de facto leader of black people. Gosh did Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms represent all white people?

No one has to represent all of a subgroup of people to be considered a "leader" among them. Many did, or do, consider the 3 you mentioned as leaders of a large proportion.

I just don't know what this has to do with anything.

It has to do with mob action-- which is conniving at racial unrest, which is the subject of this thread; and it shows a desire to advance such unrest; obviously the opposite of ending it.

 

[Revmitchell]

On today’s Pat and Stu, the guys looked at some surprising audio from Charles Barkley, where the former NBA player and broadcaster went off on the black community’s “dirty, little secret.”

“As I tell my white friends, we as black people, we’re never going to be successful, not because of you white people, but because of other black people. When you’re black, you have to deal with so much crap in your life from other black people. It’s a—It’s a dirty, dark secret; I’m glad it’s coming out. It comes out every few years,” Barkley said.

“When young black kids, you know, when they do well in school, the loser kids tell them, ‘Oh, you’re acting white.’ The kids who speak intelligently.”

“One of the reasons we’re never going to be successful as a whole, because of other black people. And for some reason we are brainwashed to think, if you’re not a thug or an idiot, you’re not black enough. If you go to school, make good grades, speak intelligent, and don’t break the law, you’re not a good black person. And it’s a dirty, dark secret.”

“There are a lot of black people who are unintelligent, who don’t have success,” he said. “It’s best to knock a successful black person down ’cause they’re intelligent, they speak well, they do well in school, and they’re successful. It’s crabs in a barrel.”


http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/10/27...on-black-culture-rips-those-who-mock-success/

 

[righteousdude2]

Barkley nailed this ...

On today’s Pat and Stu, the guys looked at some surprising audio from Charles Barkley, where the former NBA player and broadcaster went off on the black community’s “dirty, little secret.”

“As I tell my white friends, we as black people, we’re never going to be successful, not because of you white people, but because of other black people. When you’re black, you have to deal with so much crap in your life from other black people. It’s a—It’s a dirty, dark secret; I’m glad it’s coming out. It comes out every few years,” Barkley said.

“When young black kids, you know, when they do well in school, the loser kids tell them, ‘Oh, you’re acting white.’ The kids who speak intelligently.”

“One of the reasons we’re never going to be successful as a whole, because of other black people. And for some reason we are brainwashed to think, if you’re not a thug or an idiot, you’re not black enough. If you go to school, make good grades, speak intelligent, and don’t break the law, you’re not a good black person. And it’s a dirty, dark secret.”

“There are a lot of black people who are unintelligent, who don’t have success,” he said. “It’s best to knock a successful black person down ’cause they’re intelligent, they speak well, they do well in school, and they’re successful. It’s crabs in a barrel.”


http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/10/27...on-black-culture-rips-those-who-mock-success/

This is the first time I heard a black have enough guts to speak about what most blacks call "entitlement!" I have to agree with Sir Charles ... a lot of blacks seem to be content living on the government plantation, collecting free government money and "gimme's!"

Ferguson PD is not 97% white by choice. Blacks need to apply, and if they don't apply, they can't blame anyone but themselves for the white cops running the force. And for the last six years they've reaped what they sowed for voting the color of skin, and not who they knew in their hearts could do the best job. In 2008 they were fooled to vote Obama. In 2012, they were voting to keep the White House black for four more years. So I say shame on them if it takes years to fix Obama's lame brained decisions.

 

[Zaac]

This is the first time I heard a black have enough guts to speak about what most blacks call "entitlement!" I have to agree with Sir Charles ... a lot of blacks seem to be content living on the government plantation, collecting free government money and "gimme's!"

There are by far more white people living on the government plantation, collecting free government money and gimme's.

As of July 2014 via the Department of Commerce, 38.8% of Welfare recipients were white. 39.8% are black.

Sounds like a lot of folks are still believing Reagan's exaggerated story of the black "welfare queen" milking the system of nearly $150K a year with her 80 different identities.

Ferguson PD is not 97% white by choice. Blacks need to apply, and if they don't apply, they can't blame anyone but themselves for the white cops running the force.

Once again, a very rose-colored, tunnel-visioned observation.

The city of Atlanta is NOTORIOUS for giving Blacks preferential treatment in hiring, contracts, etc. Like most major cities that do the same with Whites, they throw a bone every now and then to make things look good.

Often times, non-minorities will not even apply for positions or for contracts because the people making the decisions set a standard that can only be achieved by the ones they want to hire or get a contract.

I believe this may be going on in Ferguson. Why would anyone apply for the police force when the folks who are setting the "standard" have made clear that it will be just about impossible for you to meet said standard?

And for the last six years they've reaped what they sowed for voting the color of skin, and not who they knew in their hearts could do the best job.

Huh? You've got Obama on the brain. Ferguson is nearly 68% black. Five of the 6 council members are white as well as the mayor.
Who they voted for locally has nothing to do with Obama.

In 2008 they were fooled to vote Obama. In 2012, they were voting to keep the White House black for four more years. So I say shame on them if it takes years to fix Obama's lame brained decisions.

Again, what does Obama have to do with who is on the police force and city council in Ferguson?

 

[carpro]

There are by far more white people living on the government plantation, collecting free government money and gimme's.

As of July 2014 via the Department of Commerce, 38.8% of Welfare recipients were white. 39.8% are black.

Just to be fair.

Now might be a good time to point out that blacks only comprise 13% of the population.

 

[just-want-peace]

Just to be fair.

Now might be a good time to point out that blacks only comprise 13% of the population.

Boy have you goofed!!!! This fact is supposed to apply ONLY when it is of benefit to blacks; at least according to some of our liberal brethren!! :smilewinkgrin: