What or who is predestinated?

Bob may think this is funny, I do not!!

I can tell you this...i'm not laughing for I do not know this man. He has shown in the past to get out of control. He used hate words, not on this thread, but on others. He attacks my person endlessly. One can see silly words used toward me in this thread. Yet the words deleted by the admins on other threads have been greater with much more hate. I want all to know, because of his past actions, I do take this post serious, and harmful threat on my life and safety of my family.

After speaking with my wife and with her sharing her fears, it is for this reason, I will no longer post on this board. Its been fun..but not worth my life. I will glady stand for Christ and die. Yet there is no need to cast His pearls where there is no understanding.

Please remove all personal information from my ID. I must make sure of my family's safety.


In Christ...James

 

James, I saw no attack on your life whatsoever, quit being so stinkin paranoid and silly. I think you are leaving because you have backed yourself up into a corner in your beliefs, and you don't know how to get out. So what do you do? You accuse a brother in Christ of being a neurotic serial killer. After this uncalled for attack...the worst from you yet, it's probably better that you do leave.

I thought you hold to the sovereignty of God? Don't you think He's in control?

BTW, if you want all personal info removed...why did you sign off "James"?

 

Aren't you the same guy who is always talking about the lack of God's love in other people's posts?

Honestly, I think you are a major league hypocrite and one of the worst offenders on this board.

 

That comment was said in jest, and you know it.

 

You still don't understand the doctrine of sovereignty, or else you're just goading him. It's a little wierd to debate theology over this personal issue, but here goes anyway - we calvinists believe that God uses MEANS to accomplish His will through His sovereign forknowledge. In other words, it could be that God has chosen to preserve James and his family from harm by the MEANS of the threatening words he's received and responded accordingly to.

You've mistaken calvinism for mean-less determinism. It's been said that Muslims believe in mean-less determinism. Therefore, the following illustration is offered to differentiate the views:

A muslim and a calvinist are hanging out by the fishing docks. A man falls off one of the boats and is beginning to drown. The calvinist says to the muslim "Throw him that rope you have". The muslim says "Why? If God wants him to survive, he'll start floating". The calvinist then says "Give me the rope, and I'll throw it to him. If God wants him to live, then he'll live because God gave me the desire, and a rope, to helped him get out of the water."

Do you see the difference?

Besides, that's a pretty crass thing to say. I don't blame James for taking the comments seriously. "stinking paranoid and silly" is not very sympathetic, is it?

 

I was just goading him, but thanks for the theology lesson

Nothing to be sympathetic about. He accused an elderly PASTOR of being a lunatic serial killer. I think THAT's a crass thing to imply!

 

It was a joke and I wouldn't hurt any person or animal. Sometimes we just don't know who we are dealing with, it may be someone who is paranoid or who knows, so I guess I should not of said it and I apologize for it. I don't even know you or where you live and believe me I don't want to. I think you are childish. When someone says we can hear ticking it may makes us think of a bomb but I tried to make a joke and it failed. Sorry again and please tell your wife if she knows that I am sorry and did not mean any harm but was only joking. What I said would fit me also, not just you. What I don't understand is you did post again to me after I made the comment and all those things you say about me losing it and showing hate and all I would like to know where, or are they just idle slurs?

 

Thanks, was a surprise to me.

 

I think it is silly!

 

I haven't debated you for some time. I don't know what you are talking about. I do wonder though being that you brought it up again. Have you ever in your entire life let someone else have the last say. I bet when you were a little kid your backside hated your mouth when your mommy got through busting it.