What SHOULD the price of oil be???

[mnw]

Dig up Alaska, get the oil from there and then forget Iran and just settle on your own prices.

 

[Hope of Glory]

I think the price of oil should be whatever price the seller can get for it. It should be a supply and demand market.

Yep.

BTW, as far as digging up Alaska, that would be mining. The oil drilling they want to do in ANWR would cover an area roughly the size of Dulles airport, and it's in a place that is roughly the size of Germany and France combined.

 

[Hope of Glory]

Here's a comment on oil prices: Click Me!

 

[blackbird]

We as United States citizens are so stupid---we're idiots!!

Cheap gasoline?? I don't ever remember cheap gasoline!!

We're gonna have to face reality and then change ourselves to do something about it.

Dump the Expeditons and those "beastly" SUV's that we have "bowed down to" for so long and start driving cars that get 50 miles/gallon instead of cars that have 50 gallon gas tanks and get 12 miles/gallon.

Stop needless driving

Do like they do in Vietnam---buy you a Moped or a bicycle--or walk---the option is yours

 

[SpiritualMadMan]

I remember cheap gasoline... $0.19 per gallon during the gas wars on the mid 60's...

 

[mnw]

In the UK we pay around $6 a gallon or something near that. It is probably the same in Ireland. I am only 25 but I do remember cheap gasoline, I remember it from every trip I have ever taken to the USA.

There is definitely truth in the gentle admonition from Blackbird to get rid of the inefficient vehicles and use the more efficient and therefore more cost effective vehicles available.

 

[SpiritualMadMan]

Of course with the budget busting cost of gasoline... All those with new cars risk having them repossesed!

I know I don't have the income to support 1 new vehicle much less the two we really need, desperately...

 

[Hope of Glory]

So, and extra $20 per month for gas is "budget busting"?

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by SpiritualMadMan:
I remember cheap gasoline... $0.19 per gallon during the gas wars on the mid 60's...

Me, too. Plus someone filled your tank and checked your oil and tires.

 

[Hope of Glory]

I also remember when you could buy a car for a little more than $1000, chicken wings for 10 cents each, and Krysal hamburgers for 15 cents, but long distance cost you $2.00 per minute.

Costs change.

Instead of blaming the oil companies that had 8% or less of a profit margin, blame the world market. That's where the price of oil is, and should be, determined.

 

[TC]

Originally posted by blackbird:
We as United States citizens are so stupid---we're idiots!!

Cheap gasoline?? I don't ever remember cheap gasoline!!

You must be really young because I do.

We're gonna have to face reality and then change ourselves to do something about it.

Dump the Expeditons and those "beastly" SUV's that we have "bowed down to" for so long and start driving cars that get 50 miles/gallon instead of cars that have 50 gallon gas tanks and get 12 miles/gallon.

Not everybody that complains about high gas prices drives large SUV's. I drive a 1997 Plymoth Neon that gets about 33-35 mpg - and I still cannot afford much gas. Also, those stickers on the cars that promise 50+ mpg aren't that accurate. The Toyota Prius sticker says it gets 56 mpg, but Consumer Reports magazine tested the Prius and found that it got 44 mpg in real world mixed driving conditions.

Stop needless driving

define needless.

Do like they do in Vietnam---buy you a Moped or a bicycle--or walk---the option is yours

Vietnam doesn't get 40 below zero with wind chills cold enough to freeze exposed skin in a few minutes like we do here. If you wish to walk or bike in the dead of winter that's fine, but I will take my car.

 

[SpiritualMadMan]

Or, in the heat of summer in South carolina...

I guess your work place accepts stinky sweaty workers?

Or, during a massive downpour?

I guess your workplace allows sopping wet workers too?

Now, *that* would be great for those of us who work around electricity...

None of my driving is needless...

I drive to/from work...

Combine shipping trips into one trip...

I don't drive an SUV... But, an older car that I simply can't aford to replace...

Maybe after I am at a new job a year...

 

[Hope of Glory]

The Toyota Prius sticker says it gets 56 mpg, but Consumer Reports magazine tested the Prius and found that it got 44 mpg in real world mixed driving conditions.

The LA Times tested and discovered that it got better than advertised. I would like to see a side-by-side comparison of the testing, just out of curiosity.

Here in Alaska, people walk year 'round. Not many bicycle in 3+ feet of snow, though. Many of them put on the mukluks and head out. Others simply put on the Xtra Tuffs and go. Some take snow machines to work, but they take gas as well. A few take dog sleds when visiting friends. Except in Anchorage, but Anchorage is just another big city.

I pick up kids in the bus when it's -20 and 3 feet of snow. Up in Fairbanks, where it get cold, they pick them up when it's -50 and 3 feet of snow. The kids still have to walk down to the main road; many of them walk a long way.

It can be done. Doing otherwise is a choice. (A reasonable choice, as I would not choose to walk 5 miles in 3 feet of snow.)

But, if you get a car that gets 35 MPG, assuming you drive 50 miles to work, an additional $1 per gallon only amounts to $15 per week. How much do you spend on sodas and bottled water and eating out?

 

[billwald]

Americans think they have a constitutional right to a job in the city, a home in the country, and a freeway that connects them. For the most part of human history people walked to work. Still could if they moved into town.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Well, I'm riding my bike the 5 miles a day to work. I won't do it when it's 13 below zero, I don't care how loud the eco-nuts scream.

 

[saturneptune]

Bro. Curtis,
That is really something I should do. How long does it take you? Do you live and work in town? Good seeing you.

 

[LadyEagle]

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Lady Eagle

 

[Hope of Glory]

We have the highest per capita rate of injury and death among bicyclists up here.

I think it's the coriolis effect, this close to the pole.

Just kidding about the last statement.

I think it's because of a high rate of drunk bicycle riding and a high rate of high adventurers going into some questionable situations on off-road bicycles. That, and the fact that very few wear helmets.

 

[TC]

Originally posted by Hope of Glory:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> The Toyota Prius sticker says it gets 56 mpg, but Consumer Reports magazine tested the Prius and found that it got 44 mpg in real world mixed driving conditions.

The LA Times tested and discovered that it got better than advertised. I would like to see a side-by-side comparison of the testing, just out of curiosity.</font>[/QUOTE]I would too. I'll have to see if I can find that Consumer Reports test again.

Here in Alaska, people walk year 'round. Not many bicycle in 3+ feet of snow, though. Many of them put on the mukluks and head out. Others simply put on the Xtra Tuffs and go. Some take snow machines to work, but they take gas as well. A few take dog sleds when visiting friends. Except in Anchorage, but Anchorage is just another big city.

I pick up kids in the bus when it's -20 and 3 feet of snow. Up in Fairbanks, where it get cold, they pick them up when it's -50 and 3 feet of snow. The kids still have to walk down to the main road; many of them walk a long way.

Only problem is the older I get, the colder I get.

But, if you get a car that gets 35 MPG, assuming you drive 50 miles to work, an additional $1 per gallon only amounts to $15 per week. How much do you spend on sodas and bottled water and eating out?

Very little. I don't drink much pop anymore and I filter my tap water via the Brita pitcher and I like to cook.

 

[ASLANSPAL]

Well, I'm riding my bike the 5 miles a day to work. I won't do it when it's 13 below zero, I don't care how loud the eco-nuts scream.
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What are you talking about why would anyone who loves the environment be screaming about you riding your bike??? and who are these so called eco-nuts who are against bike riding and transportation...perhaps these people are in favor of both..and doing it wisely..me thinks a knee-jerk reaction on your part Curtis.


Riding bikes is good for mental health and encourage anyone to do it especially Curtis...and President Bush cases who need that Serotonin fix(modulates the angst)

Did you know the Space station can see the reflection of the sun off your shining head Curtis. perhaps they are the ones screaming from the blinding reflection off your shiny Lil ole head...beware of two much sun.