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What should the White House do with all media leaks?

righteousdude2

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Why the Trump White House isn't leak-proof

Ever since Trump became President, there have been numerous leaks regarding meetings, things POTUS says, etc. If you were President, and had the kind of "media leaks" this Administration has had, what would you do, and when a leak is identified, what should be done with leaker?

I'll tell you what I would do, and it would involve terminating every person held over from the Obama administration. Then, I'd put everything on hold, accept for foreign relation issues, and hire a ton of people to take over for the employees no longer on payroll. And I think I'd start hiring ex military personnel who have similar duties and training while on active duty.

Like Reagan, who hired a ton of new air traffic control persons, replace my the staff with loyal,deserving employees. Of course, if Trump did this, the Dems and media would have a field day, like they are having witheverything else Trump's WH does.
 

Crabtownboy

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You worry about media leaks while Trump is leaking highly classified information to the Russians?
 

righteousdude2

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You worry about media leaks while Trump is leaking highly classified information to the Russians?

I understand that OCD would have you believe this unproven news. Your hate for the President is an unhealthy disorder brother. Take a step back, utter a prayer, and try to allow God to inhabit your ability to deal with losing the election.

Trump is our president, and the sooner you accept this and stop grasping for straws that could lead to impeaching him. Even if he did, as you want to believe, it is not anything to get your panties in an uproar for.

He is POTUS, and heis permitted to unclassify classified information.

All I.can say about your emotional rant is: GEESH! Get a life!
 

Crabtownboy

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I understand that OCD would have you believe this unproven news. Your hate for the President is an unhealthy disorder brother. Take a step back, utter a prayer, and try to allow God to inhabit your ability to deal with losing the election.

Trump is our president, and the sooner you accept this and stop grasping for straws that could lead to impeaching him. Even if he did, as you want to believe, it is not anything to get your panties in an uproar for.

He is POTUS, and heis permitted to unclassify classified information.

All I.can say about your emotional rant is: GEESH! Get a life!

He may be permitted to declassify information. But that does not mean he has not harmed the US greatly. Why would any of our allies share sensitive information with us knowing it is not safe from being leaked by our president.

Why were you upset over Hillary's e-mails and not about Trump sharing information so sensitive we have not even shared it with our allies?
 

Brent W

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Even if he did, as you want to believe, it is not anything to get your panties in an uproar for.

Are you kidding me? Republicans have tried to impeach a President for less than revealing highly classified information to a potential enemy state.
 

righteousdude2

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He may be permitted to declassify information. But that does not mean he has not harmed the US greatly. Why would any of our allies share sensitive information with us knowing it is not safe from being leaked by our president.

Why were you upset over Hillary's e-mails and not about Trump sharing information so sensitive we have not even shared it with our allies?

Any harm has yet to be demonstrated.IMO
 

Happy

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He may be permitted to declassify information. But that does not mean he has not harmed the US greatly. Why would any of our allies share sensitive information with us knowing it is not safe from being leaked by our president.

Why were you upset over Hillary's e-mails and not about Trump sharing information so sensitive we have not even shared it with our allies?

Were you at the meeting?
H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, was at the meeting and said the allegations were FALSE.

So, why are you parroting a false accusation?
 

InTheLight

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Were you at the meeting?
H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, was at the meeting and said the allegations were FALSE.

So, why are you parroting a false accusation?
No, McMaster said no sources, methods, or military operations were discussed. The allegation is that Trump let slip the location where we got intel on ISIS and their plans to weaponize laptops. McMaster's statement is carefully worded and did not specifically deny the allegation.

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Crabtownboy

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Were you at the meeting?
H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, was at the meeting and said the allegations were FALSE.

So, why are you parroting a false accusation?

Please notice McMaster did not say that no intelligence was shared. His words were what is called a Washington denial. That is you pick and choose and leave out the condemning parts.

Now I ask you, if you were in a foreign intelligence service, would you give the Americans any sensitive information?
 

Crabtownboy

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Any harm has yet to be demonstrated.IMO

We probably will never know what harm was done. Why, partly because foreign services will no longer have any trust in our keeping their shared secrets secret.

I ask you, if you were in a foreign intelligence service, would you now share any classified or sensitive information with the Americans?
 

Happy

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No, McMaster said no sources, methods, or military operations were discussed. The allegation is that Trump let slip the location where we got intel on ISIS and their plans to weaponize laptops. McMaster's statement is carefully worded and did not specifically deny the allegation.

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Take note of the points given by H.R. McMaster, (national security "adviser"), who was AT the meeting AND participated IN the meeting.

1) A TOPIC discussed - (concerns ABOUT terrorism) .... shocking! (not)

2) A TOPIC discussed - a REVIEW of "common threats" from terrorist organization "including" threats to aviation .... shocking secret revelations, after 911! (not)

3) A TOPIC "NOT" discussed - "INTELLIGENCE sources or methods".

4) A TOPIC "NOT" discussed - "MILITARY operations NOT disclosed to the public".

5) A TOPIC "NOT" discussed - "subsequent newspaper articles".

6) A TOPIC mentioned by the cited article - "terror threat related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft" - shocking news laptops can be rigged to cause harm - (not news, not secret)

6) A TOPIC mentioned by the cited article - "Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State’s territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat." (now we get to the nitty gritty - THE CITY - (not laptop capabilities as you zoned in on to cite your view).

7) THE CITY - in the Islamic State's territory - (What SECRET Islamic State? What SECRET CITY? Who are the UNNAMED "officials" that MADE THESE CLAIMS? And were these UNNAMED "officials" AT the meeting? (oops, it doesn't say.)

8) THE UNNAMED OFFICIALS ( are OFFICIALS OF WHAT? ) Office food services? Office janitorial services? Offering beverages to Trumps guests? Cleaning up after Trumps guests? Because ACTUAL OFFICIALS, have a sworn duty to keep their big fat mouths shut IF THEY HEAR ANYTHING that is GOVERNMENT SECRETS.

9) So the Post's article goes on to say (about the "supposed" "officials" speaking)....oh, oh, the CITY, the CITY where a plot is being hatched...

"The Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities."

10) Seriously? The "supposed" "officials", supposedly GAVE Newspaper "reporters", SENSITIVE SECRET INTEL, and then warned them to "not tell anyone".... LOL

11) And then we find reported -

“Everyone knows this stream is very sensitive, and the idea of sharing it at this level of granularity with the Russians is troubling,” said a former senior U.S. counterterrorism official who also worked closely with members of the Trump national security team. He and others spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the subject.

12) Wait a minute - How did a FORMER senior US "official" get in on the knowledge (when it was already claimed by the big mouth to the reporters, to not be discussed) of WHAT was discussed in Trump's meeting? Is he the UNNAMMED "official" who was at the meeting? An "unofficial" former "official" ? He and Others? Who is He, and Who are the others discussing SECRET information, while blabbing the info and telling others not to discuss it. LOL

13) Newspaper article "ie specifically Washington Post appears AFTER Trumps meeting.

14) A subsequent statement from McMaster in regard to the Washington Post article.

15) McMaster's statement saying the Washington Post story is "FALSE".

White House officials involved in the meeting said Trump discussed only shared concerns about terrorism.


“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”


McMaster reiterated his statement in a subsequent appearance at the White House on Monday and described the Washington Post story as “false,” but did not take any questions.


The allegation is that Trump let slip the location where we got intel on ISIS and their plans to weaponize laptops. McMaster's statement is carefully worded and did not specifically deny the allegation.

Weaponry concerns has to do with MILITARY and INTELLIGENCE gathering ... ie CIA
WHOM the US receives intel FROM has to do with INTELLIGENCE gathering from "allies/partners" etc.
McMaster's subsequently stated the allegations in the article of the Washington Post was FALSE.

Now; continue...

16) “Russia could identify our sources or techniques,” the senior U.S. official said. (huh....COULD IDENTIFY.....LOL....

17) "A former intelligence official who handled high-level intelligence on Russia said that given the clues Trump provided, “I don’t think that it would be that hard [for Russian spy services] to figure this out.”

Do you not read and separate the FACTS from SPECULATION?

The whole story is loaded with accusations from "UNNAMMED" sources.
The "story" claims NEWSPAPER "reporters" were GIVEN "sensitive secret information".
The "story" claims Trump gave "sensitive secret information" TO the Russians.
The "story" claims Trump DID NOT GIVE the identity of our sources or techniques (ie the SENSITIVE INFORMATION)....but rather "gave them clues", that the Russians "could figure it out".

LOL - shocking revelation! The Russians and the US meet to discuss terrorism. Certain FACTS are NOT revealed, but the Russians could make "guesses".

LOL - shocking revelation! The Islamic State, a big secret to the Russians, the US and the American People....which Islamic State and which City the US needs to be TOLD to keep their eye on.

LOL - shocking revelation - "anti-Trump government officials" claim Trump gives secret SENSITIVE information to Russia (but not really) .....while "anti-Trump government officials " DO GIVE "SENSITIVE secret information to NEWSPAPER reporters.

The STORY is a circle jerk, and you fall for the CLAIMS made, AS IF they were FACTUAL, without further paying attention to their claims, out of their own mouths, were "speculative".

And righteousdude2 is correct - The whole lot of the FORMER staff needs to be relieved of their duty, as unworthy servants who JEOPARDIZE the security efforts of the US!
 
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HankD

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We probably will never know what harm was done. Why, partly because foreign services will no longer have any trust in our keeping their shared secrets secret.

I ask you, if you were in a foreign intelligence service, would you now share any classified or sensitive information with the Americans?
If it was "shared" info it was probably "false" info.

What kind of classified clearance do you have and what kind of need to know do you have and what kind of training in the handling of classified information do you have to be such an armchair expert in what he "revealed"?

HankD
 

InTheLight

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Take note of the points given by H.R. McMaster, (national security "adviser"), who was AT the meeting AND participated IN the meeting.

1) A TOPIC discussed - (concerns ABOUT terrorism) .... shocking! (not)

2) A TOPIC discussed - a REVIEW of "common threats" from terrorist organization "including" threats to aviation .... shocking secret revelations, after 911! (not)

3) A TOPIC "NOT" discussed - "INTELLIGENCE sources or methods".

4) A TOPIC "NOT" discussed - "MILITARY operations NOT disclosed to the public".

5) A TOPIC "NOT" discussed - "subsequent newspaper articles".

6) A TOPIC mentioned by the cited article - "terror threat related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft" - shocking news laptops can be rigged to cause harm - (not news, not secret)

6) A TOPIC mentioned by the cited article - "Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State’s territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat." (now we get to the nitty gritty - THE CITY - (not laptop capabilities as you zoned in on to cite your view).

7) THE CITY - in the Islamic State's territory - (What SECRET Islamic State? What SECRET CITY? Who are the UNNAMED "officials" that MADE THESE CLAIMS? And were these UNNAMED "officials" AT the meeting? (oops, it doesn't say.)

8) THE UNNAMED OFFICIALS ( are OFFICIALS OF WHAT? ) Office food services? Office janitorial services? Offering beverages to Trumps guests? Cleaning up after Trumps guests? Because ACTUAL OFFICIALS, have a sworn duty to keep their big fat mouths shut IF THEY HEAR ANYTHING that is GOVERNMENT SECRETS.

9) So the Post's article goes on to say (about the "supposed" "officials" speaking)....oh, oh, the CITY, the CITY where a plot is being hatched...

"The Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities."

10) Seriously? The "supposed" "officials", supposedly GAVE Newspaper "reporters", SENSITIVE SECRET INTEL, and then warned them to "not tell anyone".... LOL

11) And then we find reported -

“Everyone knows this stream is very sensitive, and the idea of sharing it at this level of granularity with the Russians is troubling,” said a former senior U.S. counterterrorism official who also worked closely with members of the Trump national security team. He and others spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the subject.

12) Wait a minute - How did a FORMER senior US "official" get in on the knowledge (when it was already claimed by the big mouth to the reporters, to not be discussed) of WHAT was discussed in Trump's meeting? Is he the UNNAMMED "official" who was at the meeting? An "unofficial" former "official" ? He and Others? Who is He, and Who are the others discussing SECRET information, while blabbing the info and telling others not to discuss it. LOL

13) Newspaper article "ie specifically Washington Post appears AFTER Trumps meeting.

14) A subsequent statement from McMaster in regard to the Washington Post article.

15) McMaster's statement saying the Washington Post story is "FALSE".

White House officials involved in the meeting said Trump discussed only shared concerns about terrorism.


“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” said H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, who participated in the meeting. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed, and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”


McMaster reiterated his statement in a subsequent appearance at the White House on Monday and described the Washington Post story as “false,” but did not take any questions.




Weaponry concerns has to do with MILITARY and INTELLIGENCE gathering ... ie CIA
WHOM the US receives intel FROM has to do with INTELLIGENCE gathering from "allies/partners" etc.
McMaster's subsequently stated the allegations in the article of the Washington Post was FALSE.

Now; continue...

16) “Russia could identify our sources or techniques,” the senior U.S. official said. (huh....COULD IDENTIFY.....LOL....

17) "A former intelligence official who handled high-level intelligence on Russia said that given the clues Trump provided, “I don’t think that it would be that hard [for Russian spy services] to figure this out.”

Do you not read and separate the FACTS from SPECULATION?

The whole story is loaded with accusations from "UNNAMMED" sources.
The "story" claims NEWSPAPER "reporters" were GIVEN "sensitive secret information".
The "story" claims Trump gave "sensitive secret information" TO the Russians.
The "story" claims Trump DID NOT GIVE the identity of our sources or techniques (ie the SENSITIVE INFORMATION)....but rather "gave them clues", that the Russians "could figure it out".

LOL - shocking revelation! The Russians and the US meet to discuss terrorism. Certain FACTS are NOT revealed, but the Russians could make "guesses".

LOL - shocking revelation! The Islamic State, a big secret to the Russians, the US and the American People....which Islamic State and which City the US needs to be TOLD to keep their eye on.

LOL - shocking revelation - "anti-Trump government officials" claim Trump gives secret SENSITIVE information to Russia (but not really) .....while "anti-Trump government officials " DO GIVE "SENSITIVE secret information to NEWSPAPER reporters.

The STORY is a circle jerk, and you fall for the CLAIMS made, AS IF they were FACTUAL, without further paying attention to their claims, out of their own mouths, were "speculative".

And righteousdude2 is correct - The whole lot of the FORMER staff needs to be relieved of their duty, as unworthy servants who JEOPARDIZE the security efforts of the US!
Yes, Trump revealed the city where he got "the best intel, I get the best intel." Yes, that is classified information.

Now, ya gonna write another novel in response? Please use ALL CAPS on verbs this time.

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Crabtownboy

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If it was "shared" info it was probably "false" info.

What kind of classified clearance do you have and what kind of need to know do you have and what kind of training in the handling of classified information do you have to be such an armchair expert in what he "revealed"?

HankD

I am retired so I do not have a clearance now. I did have a clearance and instructions on how to handle classified information. In the Army I always had classified information in the communications hut on the back of our deuce and a half ton truck. I also had a clearance where I worked for 26 years. We handled some very high stuff where I worked. Nope, for security reasons I will not divulge the level of classification ... sorry.

I seriously doubt it was fake intelligence. Why would an country we share such information with give us false data? Sorry, but you boy stepped in it big time. I will say that perhaps he did so through ignorance, that is he did not realize he was giving information that should not be shared. However, the harm has been done and America will pay a price for this. We will never know just how high the price is as no other country who shares with us will give us such sensitive information ... at least as long as Trump is in office. Perhaps they will share only if our intelligence services promise not to tell Trump ... and that would probably be illegal.

As I predicted during the campaign, Trump would be a disaster. I had no idea he would be such a disaster.
 

HankD

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I am retired so I do not have a clearance now. I did have a clearance and instructions on how to handle classified information. In the Army I always had classified information in the communications hut on the back of our deuce and a half ton truck. I also had a clearance where I worked for 26 years. We handled some very high stuff where I worked. Nope, for security reasons I will not divulge the level of classification ... sorry.

I seriously doubt it was fake intelligence. Why would an country we share such information with give us false data? Sorry, but you boy stepped in it big time. I will say that perhaps he did so through ignorance, that is he did not realize he was giving information that should not be shared. However, the harm has been done and America will pay a price for this. We will never know just how high the price is as no other country who shares with us will give us such sensitive information ... at least as long as Trump is in office. Perhaps they will share only if our intelligence services promise not to tell Trump ... and that would probably be illegal.

As I predicted during the campaign, Trump would be a disaster. I had no idea he would be such a disaster.
It's all Fake Disaster".

HankD
 

Happy

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Yes, Trump revealed the city where he got "the best intel, I get the best intel." Yes, that is classified information.

According to .... WHOM? Please identify the your source.

According to .... H.R. McMaster, (ie source), the claim was false.

According to .... you. WHO is "your source", and "what is the city" ?

Now, ya gonna write another novel in response?

LOL - That is hilarious. According to you, a "novel" is a post that can be read in 2 minutes by someone with basic reading skills. No wonder Dems effectively use "one-liner" HEADLINES, they are in tune to the laziness of their constitutions to take 2 minutes of their time to actually read the claims, and then realize the ending that reveals their claims are speculation.... LOL

Please use ALL CAPS on verbs this time.

Caps are acceptably used to emphasize a point. And some "senior citizens" actually prefer to read in CAPS because of their failing eyesight to read small print. <---> would that apply to you for you to make such a request ?

If your comment was intended as sarcasm, denoting you favor "the politically correct view" that CAPS means "YELLING".....oops....too bad. I am not a politician, nor do I follow along pretending I have to be cautious of what I say or HOW I say it. And neither am I ignorant to know YELLING is a verbal expression of VOICE infliction, not letters written in a provided font size tool for anyones use.
 

Happy

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As I predicted during the campaign, Trump would be a disaster. I had no idea he would be such a disaster.

Do share....

What specifically were your "predictions" ?
What specifically is the "disaster" you say is realized?
 

InTheLight

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Do share....

What specifically were your "predictions" ?
What specifically is the "disaster" you say is realized?

How's that Wall coming along?
How's that Muslim travel ban coming along?
How's that tax reform plan coming along?
How's that deportation of illegals coming along?
How's that infrastructure program doing?
How about getting rid of NAFTA? Or renegotiating it?
How about renegotiating the Iran deal?
How about absolutely destroying ISIS and taking their oil?
 
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