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What Sin is Being Committed by Person Suffering from PTSD?

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freeatlast

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annsni said:
Wholly agreed. I had a bit of PTSD after the Flight 800 work I did. Nothing like being a civilian and seeing body parts, the seats with burned hair and clothing and broken plane parts bring brought in from the sea to give you nightmares. There was nothing to confess and forsake.
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So now you claim a mental illness to justify your belief.
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freeatlast

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InTheLight said:
I do not have time to watch a 1 hour video, never mind a 3 hour video. How about summarizing what it presents, using your own words?
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That has been done, but is is difficult to present facts on this if you do not have more then a couple minutes to read. If you do not have time to get all the information then there is no way to answer you. Watch the video in parts, perhaps 15 minutes at a time, if you must but watch the video to make an informed judgment. Sometimes to get the correct answers to our question it takes time. Skip a day of coming on the board and watch the video. I think you will be shocked.
 
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freeatlast

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The truth is that claiming a mental illness because of behavior issues and being prescribed drugs keeps the person from taking full responsibility for their sin, not to mention they never escape the sin because they never truly confess and forsake the sin.
All drugs do is mask the sin and allows the person involved to live a life of denial and defeat. They never become an overcomer of their sin as their sin continues to rule them instead of them ruling over their sin. All sin stems from a spiritual issue not a mental one.
Watch the videos;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XohpN2iZTUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk
 
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freeatlast said:
The truth is that claiming a mental illness because of behavior issues and being prescribed drugs keeps the person from taking full responsibility for their sin, not to mention they never escape the sin because they never truly confess and forsake the sin.
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Your own bias binds you from the truth.

Not one person on the threads has stated that they take medication to "keep(s) (from) taking full responsibility for their sin."

If you were honest, you would admit that in thread after thread, in which the participants took medication, that medication was used appropriately and the result was that confession and forsaking does take place.

If you were honest, you would admit that, if you did acknowledge the posts as an example in which TRUE confession and forsaking does take place as a result of the work of the Holy Spirit and influence of Godly counsel and medication, it would in fact disprove your view. That you cannot allow for such disproving may be discerned as you being in denial - which is a sin.


freeatlast said:
All drugs do is mask the sin and allows the person involved to live a life of denial and defeat. They never become an overcomer of their sin as their sin continues to rule them instead of them ruling over their sin. All sin stems from a spiritual issue not a mental one.
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The problem with this part of your statement is the use of "never."

That isn't the truth. It has been shown repeatedly on these threads to not be the truth.

Proverbs 27:9
"Ointment and perfume rejoice the heart: so doth the sweetness of a man's friend by hearty counsel."​

The word "ointment" is the same word used for the ointment that the apothecary uses. It is a healing aid. Just because it may come in pill form, does not matter.

You are taking extreme (as proven by the video selections) to the extreme instead of looking at the evidence presented in the threads and modulating your responses to the posts.

In your frustration, you repeat the mantra in which no one argues and expect that with the repetition comes some acknowledgement that you are correct.

When there is no disagreement, is it not seemingly foolhardy to continue along the same repeated statement?
 
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freeatlast

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agedman said:
Your own bias binds you from the truth.

Not one person on the threads has stated that they take medication to "keep(s) (from) taking full responsibility for their sin."

If you were honest, you would admit that in thread after thread, in which the participants took medication, that medication was used appropriately and the result was that confession and forsaking does take place.

If you were honest, you would admit that, if you did acknowledge the posts as an example in which TRUE confession and forsaking does take place as a result of the work of the Holy Spirit and influence of Godly counsel and medication, it would in fact disprove your view. That you cannot allow for such disproving may be discerned as you being in denial - which is a sin.




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The problem with this part of your statement is the use of "never."

That isn't the truth. It has been shown repeatedly on these threads to not be the truth.

Proverbs 27:9
"Ointment and perfume rejoice the heart: so doth the sweetness of a man's friend by hearty counsel."
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The word "ointment" is the same word used for the ointment that the apothecary uses. It is a healing aid. Just because it may come in pill form, does not matter.

You are taking extreme (as proven by the video selections) to the extreme instead of looking at the evidence presented in the threads and modulating your responses to the posts.

In your frustration, you repeat the mantra in which no one argues and expect that with the repetition comes some acknowledgement that you are correct.

When there is no disagreement, is it not seemingly foolhardy to continue along the same repeated statement?
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Just because people do not admit they are covering their sin does not mean it is not happening. Drugs mask sin and keep the person from dealing with the real issue, the heart. They use the excuse of an illness when the only illness they have is a sin sick heart. Confession and forsaking is the only way to overcome the sin.
Watch the videos;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XohpN2iZTUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk
 
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revmwc

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freeatlast said:
Just because people do not admit they are covering their sin does not mean it is not happening. Drugs mask sin and keep the person from dealing with the real issue, the heart. They use the excuse of an illness when the only illness they have is a sin sick heart. Confession and forsaking is the only way to overcome the sin.
Watch the videos;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XohpN2iZTUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk
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You say "Drugs mask sin" what sin does Tegretol mask, or Atenolol, or Phenobarbital? Or how about Synthroid, levothyroxine? Or how about L-dopa. levodopa?
 
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freeatlast

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revmwc said:
You say "Drugs mask sin" what sin does Tegretol mask, or Atenolol, or Phenobarbital? Or how about Synthroid, levothyroxine? Or how about L-dopa. levodopa?
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If a drug is used to combat behavior issues it is masking the sin. It matters not what the name of the drug is.Confession and forsaking is what God calls for, not masking the sin with drugs.
Watch the videos;
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[/SIZE][SIZE=+0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk[/SIZE]
 
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freeatlast said:
If a drug is used to combat behavior issues it is masking the sin. It matters not what the name of the drug is.Confession and forsaking is what God calls for, not masking the sin with drugs.
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"The Rod" is made of the natural elements just as modern drugs.

In that sense "the rod" can be considered a drug when applied to the child. Just because it is not digested does not lessen the use and example.

Further, the rod certainly can "mask sin" for when wrongly applied it causes not confession and forsaking but anger in which the Scriptures warn against and you can personally testify.

However, when applied appropriately it opens understanding so confession and forsaking of sin can be the result.

Perhaps all mental patients should be occasionally have a dose of the "rod" to open understanding so confession and forsaking sin can be the result.

WAIT - they do, but it is digested, rather than applied through the skin.
 
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freeatlast

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agedman said:
"The Rod" is made of the natural elements just as modern drugs.

In that sense "the rod" can be considered a drug when applied to the child. Just because it is not digested does not lessen the use and example.

Further, the rod certainly can "mask sin" for when wrongly applied it causes not confession and forsaking but anger in which the Scriptures warn against and you can personally testify.

However, when applied appropriately it opens understanding so confession and forsaking of sin can be the result.

Perhaps all mental patients should be occasionally have a dose of the "rod" to open understanding so confession and forsaking sin can be the result.

WAIT - they do, but it is digested, rather than applied through the skin.
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The rod does not mask the sin, drugs do. In fact the rid will make you weigh if continuing in the behavior is worth it or not. I dare say if we used the biblical prescription today for punishment the rate of behavior problems would go down dramatically. I am all for caining instead of prison and I suggest that you do a video search on what that is if you do not know.. My guess is the drug suppliers would go out of business if that was used. The rod was a punishment, drugs are only mask, The only way to be set free from sin is to confess and forsake, not take drugs.
Watch the videos;
[SIZE=+0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XohpN2iZTUg

[/SIZE][SIZE=+0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk[/SIZE]
 
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annsni

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A person with ADHD physically cannot just sit still. They desire to stay focused and when told to do so, they try as hard as they can to obey but their mind will still wander and their body will need to move. However, with the use of medication in the most severe, they now suddenly can focus, sit still and do exactly what they desire to do (obey). It actually assists them by overcoming the physical issues that are happening in their body, thus allowing the brain to work properly.

That is a sin?
 
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Steadfast Fred

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Reckon it is time to put a new Bible on the shelves...

Acts 15:28 (KJV) For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Proverbs 26:3 (PV) A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and Ritalin for the fool.
 
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freeatlast

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annsni said:
A person with ADHD physically cannot just sit still. They desire to stay focused and when told to do so, they try as hard as they can to obey but their mind will still wander and their body will need to move. However, with the use of medication in the most severe, they now suddenly can focus, sit still and do exactly what they desire to do (obey). It actually assists them by overcoming the physical issues that are happening in their body, thus allowing the brain to work properly.

That is a sin?
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Tremors are not sin, but you are talking about that. It is not about cannot but will not. Are they hyper yes, but it is controlable, I have been there. ADHD is simply another term that has been contrived to justify the promotion of the drug industry towards people who refuse to control their actions and that is sin. It is not impossible to control their actions without the drug. They simply do not want to do what it takes. Here is an article about ADHD
http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/ADHD/ADHDAsFraud.htm
Drugs mask sin and confession and forsaking heals sin.
 
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