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What Sin is Being Committed by Person Suffering from PTSD?

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matt wade

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A person with ADHD physically cannot just sit still. They desire to stay focused and when told to do so, they try as hard as they can to obey but their mind will still wander and their body will need to move. However, with the use of medication in the most severe, they now suddenly can focus, sit still and do exactly what they desire to do (obey). It actually assists them by overcoming the physical issues that are happening in their body, thus allowing the brain to work properly.

That is a sin?

A person with ADHD (or that person's parents) are looking for a reason why they can't maintain control of themselves. They lack motivation and self control. Yes, it is a sin.
 

agedman

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Tremors are not sin, but you are talking about that. It is not about cannot but will not. Are they hyper yes, but it is controlable, I have been there. ADHD is simply another term that has been contrived to justify the promotion of the drug industry towards people who refuse to control their actions and that is sin. It is not impossible to control their actions without the drug. They simply do not want to do what it takes. Here is an article about ADHD
http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/ADHD/ADHDAsFraud.htm
Drugs mask sin and confession and forsaking heals sin.

FAL, given your testimony in this post, are we to assume you were diagnosed with ADHD?
 

freeatlast

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FAL, given your testimony in this post, are we to assume you were diagnosed with ADHD?
There was no such thing when I was like that. It was called being incorrigible but the symptoms were the same and in todays world instead of dealing with it we cover it with drugs. The truth is it can be dealt with without drugs, but that means the person has to submit to those who are in authority and there in is the rub. It is not that they cannot deal with it, but they do not want to do what it takes so they take the worlds way instead of God's way.
Drugs mask the sin while confession and forsaking heal.
Watch the videos;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XohpN2iZTUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk
 

agedman

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There was no such thing when I was like that. It was called being incorrigible but the symptoms were the same and in todays world instead of dealing with it we cover it with drugs. The truth is it can be dealt with without drugs, but that means the person has to submit to those who are in authority and there in is the rub. It is not that they cannot deal with it, but they do not want to do what it takes so they take the worlds way instead of God's way.


So, when you were a child and out of your own volition understood that your incorrigible behavior was normal and the same for every child of that age?

You saw all others in the classroom in the same incorrigible behavior at the same level and intensity of that behavior?
 

annsni

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Tremors are not sin, but you are talking about that. It is not about cannot but will not. Are they hyper yes, but it is controlable, I have been there. ADHD is simply another term that has been contrived to justify the promotion of the drug industry towards people who refuse to control their actions and that is sin. It is not impossible to control their actions without the drug. They simply do not want to do what it takes. Here is an article about ADHD
http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/ADHD/ADHDAsFraud.htm
Drugs mask sin and confession and forsaking heals sin.

No, you haven't been there.
 

freeatlast

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So, when you were a child and out of your own volition understood that your incorrigible behavior was normal and the same for every child of that age?

You saw all others in the classroom in the same incorrigible behavior at the same level and intensity of that behavior?

No I did not say that.
 

revmwc

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If a drug is used to combat behavior issues it is masking the sin. It matters not what the name of the drug is.Confession and forsaking is what God calls for, not masking the sin with drugs.
Watch the videos;
[SIZE=+0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XohpN2iZTUg

[/SIZE][SIZE=+0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk[/SIZE]

What is it with this video junk, you can't express what you wish to say without a video, you letting the video mask your thoughts, you need to confess and repent of this video thing you have.
 

agedman

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There was no such thing when I was like that. It was called being incorrigible but the symptoms were the same and in todays world instead of dealing with it we cover it with drugs. The truth is it can be dealt with without drugs, but that means the person has to submit to those who are in authority and there in is the rub. It is not that they cannot deal with it, but they do not want to do what it takes so they take the worlds way instead of God's way.
Drugs mask the sin while confession and forsaking heal.


So, when you were a child and out of your own volition understood that your incorrigible behavior was normal and the same for every child of that age?

You saw all others in the classroom in the same incorrigible behavior at the same level and intensity of that behavior?

No I did not say that.

Seems to me you stated you "were like that" and you applied the label "incorrigible."

Perhaps I didn't ask the right questions.

When you were incorrigible as a child, were you aware at that time that the level of incorrigibleness others expressed in the classroom and at home was of the same kind or intensity or were those children different?

Are stating that you now are aware that your incorrigibleness was out of the norm for children of that same age?
 

InTheLight

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you must but watch the video to make an informed judgment.

Does the video answer my question:

What sin is being committed by a person suffering from post traumatic stress syndrome? (Specifically a soldier returning from the battlefield.)

If it does, please list a time marker on the video so I can quickly skip ahead and see the answer to my question. If it doesn't I would like you to answer it.
 

revmwc

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If a drug is used to combat behavior issues it is masking the sin. It matters not what the name of the drug is.Confession and forsaking is what God calls for, not masking the sin with drugs.
Watch the videos;
[SIZE=+0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XohpN2iZTUg

[/SIZE][SIZE=+0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk[/SIZE]

You stated "Drugs mask sin" do know what any of the drugs I listed are for? That doesn't really matter does it becaause you say "Drugs mask sin" that means whatever the drug is for it will "mask sin" .

Lets take one "Phenobarbital" is a barbituate so you say it "mask sin".

Here is what it is used for:

"Phenobarbital is used to control seizures. Phenobarbital is also used to relieve anxiety. It is also used to prevent withdrawal symptoms in people who are dependent ('addicted'; feel a need to continue taking the medication) on another barbiturate medication and are going to stop taking the medication. Phenobarbital is in a class of medications called barbiturates. It works by slowing activity in the brain."

But if the epileptic doesn't use it they will have seizures but you say "Drugs mask sin" what sin does the epileptic need to mask?
 

annsni

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What is it with this video junk, you can't express what you wish to say without a video, you letting the video mask your thoughts, you need to confess and repent of this video thing you have.

As if we have HOURS to do nothing but listen to falsehoods....
 

freeatlast

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Seems to me you stated you "were like that" and you applied the label "incorrigible."

Perhaps I didn't ask the right questions.

When you were incorrigible as a child, were you aware at that time that the level of incorrigibleness others expressed in the classroom and at home was of the same kind or intensity or were those children different?

Are stating that you now are aware that your incorrigibleness was out of the norm for children of that same age?
I am not sure I understand what you are asking, but if you mean did I know I wanted it my way and not every child did what I did, yes of course. The words at that age did not mean anything as they would be technical at that point.It was just outright rebellion just like today, but back then they had not hoodwinked the people with this drug thing.
 

freeatlast

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Does the video answer my question:

What sin is being committed by a person suffering from post traumatic stress syndrome? (Specifically a soldier returning from the battlefield.)

If it does, please list a time marker on the video so I can quickly skip ahead and see the answer to my question. If it doesn't I would like you to answer it.

The video will give information so you can have the correct answer.
 

revmwc

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The video will give information so you can have the correct answer.

How do you know it will give the correct answer? Like several who have watched some ITL just might see it as a false belief that skews the real truth. You see ITL might go in with eyes open and no preconceived belief that whatever the person on the video says is true.

BTW did you scripturally do with the person on the video in a biblical mannar?
 

freeatlast

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At what time marker in the video is the part about soldiers and PTSD?


You will have to watch the video to get the information. I cannot tell you what happened and when without going back and recording the minutes. The information will allow you to make an informed evaluation.
 
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