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What Will/Should Become of the #NeverTrumpers

Salty

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Many people who support Trump do not blindly support Trump.
I do not agree with The Presidential-Elect with everything.

INL - posted several several things that he disagrees with Trump.
I agree with just about everything on that list.


InTheLight said:
Well, sorry to disappoint you but I'm not in favor of:

Import tariffs
A $1 Trillion stimulus
Increasing the national debt
Praising Planned Parenthood
Unchecked eminent domain
Picking winners and losers with tax policy and/or government loans
Genderless bathrooms
Gay marriage
Denying funding for NATO, causing disunity in NATO (which exists as a check on Russia)
Cozying up to Putin
Government paid maternity leave
Government paid child care
Nuclear weapon proliferation

and neither are true conservatives. Donald Trump, on the other hand, is in favor of these things. These are not conservative positions, they are populist positions.So yeah, I'm going to be obstructionist on these sorts of things as any conservative should be. If someone is in favor of a make-work jobs program to the tune of $1 trillion, especially in an attempt to bring back job titles from the 19th century, then they are the liberals, not me.
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Benjamin

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Salty said:
Why is that?
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Guess they are used to their **tactics working. But I've had this type of "operation" (which they consider "debate") to attempt to shut down a thread which they can't handle the argument against them any other way pegged for so long that I've named and defined it:

** “Subtrolling Crash Dummies” - an uncontrolled pack which assist in the disruption, or crash into a thread for the purposes of changing the focus onto personal assaults and thereby overwhelm any attempts to bring a thread back on topic.

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FollowTheWay

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Benjamin said:
Now that the [HASHTAG]#NeverTrump[/HASHTAG] movement is irrelevant I believe we need a new title to identify, define and distinguish them from the conservatives which are part of the new movement which elected Trump.

It is apparent “they” (those adamantly against supporting conservative values as long as they are not 100% satisfied with the qualities of the POTUS) now need a new title to define their new movement which continues to claim themselves as conservatives but are “never” going to support any viable action promoting those values.

IOW’s: Now that their movement to hinder the only viable opposition to Hillary Clinton has failed it seems many will continue on their path and conform their attack toward the New Republican Administration as they pretend to hold to conservative values but while they go about parroting the daily liberal spin and supporting their new path of an obstructionist agenda.

Since the [HASHTAG]#NeverTrumpers[/HASHTAG] are not for “us” (the “conservative movement” being they are more than happy to deny Trump is even conservative even in light of his SCOTUS picks, abortion stance, cabinet picks, stances on immigration, environment, taxes, etc., etc.) but rather are actively against us it shouldn’t be that difficult to conclude that we should disown them as they have disowned us.

…Well, I could go on and on about how we didn’t need them to stop the undeniable devastation a Hillary Clinton administration would have brought upon our country and conservative values and how that makes their “movement” insignificant. But that is all a given and rather unimportant right now. It is what it is.

I’m just wondering what those who claim not to be liberals, yet who don’t take viable action to uphold conservative values, who constantly parrot liberal media spin while attacking the newly formed Republican Party and its Commander in Chief, and are now obviously jumping on the path of supporting the obstructionist agenda of the Leftist should be calling their movement now?

Now, some of the [HASHTAG]#ExNeverTrumpers[/HASHTAG] have basically admitted that they are happy to be “insignificant” while going about to continue whining and crying with the liberals who lost the last election. Example: “I'm more than happy to be an "insignificant bystander...”

For that person I have suggested the [HASHTAG]#InsignificantBystanderParty[/HASHTAG], but I’m sure we all could heads together and come up something better than that. I mean, for one, “insignificant” doesn’t really take into account the annoyances of their unmistakable alliances with the Liberal Media Spin while claiming to be conservative but obviously holding hands with the Obstructionist and walking side by side on the paths with the Progressive Liberal agenda which new sole purposes in life are out to cause as much division as possible over the issues facing our country.


So, (1) Do the [HASHTAG]#NeverTrumpers[/HASHTAG] need a new title? And (2) If so, what should it be?
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It's amazing to me that anyone, especially professing Christians, can call Trump's values Christian values or even conservative values. This man is the most unChristian candidate I've seen in my life. BTW, the first vote I cast for president was for Nixon in '68 because he lied just as Trump has in many areas about his objective to end the Viet Nam war. I realized that in '72 and campaigned against him. Trump is a dangerous narcissistic who believes he knows more about everything than anybody else. He's been married 3 times and had an illegitimate child by his second wife before he divorced his first wife. His current wife worked in the U.S. illegally because she didn't have the right visa to do so and yet Trump hypocritically wants to deport illegal aliens. She also appeared nude on the cover of GQ magazine. [link deleted]
Think that's pornographer? No, that's our new First "Lady." Trump mouthed conservative platitudes but his real beliefs were expressed in this video from 1999: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914

On the campaign trail Trump tried to put money in the communion plate demonstrating that he hasn't exactly been a church goer for a long time. He has re-ignited racial hatred in our country that I didn't believe existed any more. Unfortunately, I was wrong. A great business man? He has declared bankruptcy 6 times. I don't consider that to be the mark of an astute business man at all. He has demonstrated a real kinship with V. Putin, the leader of a communist state who I consider to be our enemy. Both Democrats and Republicans have called for a thorough investigation of the impact Russia's hacking influenced the result of the election. He refused to provide his tax returns making him the first candidate in modern history to do so. Even Nixon released his tax returns while under audit which is the excuse Trump gives. His medical report was very marginal and his so-called doctor looks like a relic from Woodstock.

He has already caused an international incident by recognizing Taiwan. It seems to me that his objective is for Russia and the U.S. to seize power together by attacking China. This might very well involve a nuclear exchange. My personal hope lies only in my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ but I will do everything I can to resist America's takeover by an avowed FASCIST. I think America was conned in the same way Germany was conned by Adolph Hitler. This song describes where we are at this point.
 
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HankD

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FollowTheWay said:
It's amazing to me that anyone, especially professing Christians, can call Trump's values Christian values or even conservative values. This man is the most unChristian candidate I've seen in my life. BTW, the first vote I cast for president was for Nixon in '68 because he lied just as Trump has in many areas about his objective to end the Viet Nam war. I realized that in '72 and campaigned against him. Trump is a dangerous narcissistic who believes he knows more about everything than anybody else. He's been married 3 times and had an illegitimate child by his second wife before he divorced his first wife. His current wife worked in the U.S. illegally because she didn't have the right visa to do so and yet Trump hypocritically wants to deport illegal aliens. She also appeared nude on the cover of GQ magazine. [link deleted]
Think that's pornographer? No, that's our new First "Lady." Trump mouthed conservative platitudes but his real beliefs were expressed in this video from 1999: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914

On the campaign trail Trump tried to put money in the communion plate demonstrating that he hasn't exactly been a church goer for a long time. He has re-ignited racial hatred in our country that I didn't believe existed any more. Unfortunately, I was wrong. A great business man? He has declared bankruptcy 6 times. I don't consider that to be the mark of an astute business man at all. He has demonstrated a real kinship with V. Putin, the leader of a communist state who I consider to be our enemy. Both Democrats and Republicans have called for a thorough investigation of the impact Russia's hacking influenced the result of the election. He refused to provide his tax returns making him the first candidate in modern history to do so. Even Nixon released his tax returns while under audit which is the excuse Trump gives. His medical report was very marginal and his so-called doctor looks like a relic from Woodstock.

He has already caused an international incident by recognizing Taiwan. It seems to me that his objective is for Russia and the U.S. to seize power together by attacking China. This might very well involve a nuclear exchange. My personal hope lies only in my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ but I will do everything I can to resist America's takeover by an avowed FASCIST. I think America was conned in the same way Germany was conned by Adolph Hitler. This song describes where we are at this point.
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I hope you have to eat your words FTW. Time will tell.

HankD
 
FollowTheWay

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This is simply a true statement of Trump's character. I'll never have to "east my words." If you can refute any of the characteristics I pointed out please do. I hope for our country's sake he doesn't take America down.
 
HankD

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FollowTheWay said:
This is simply a true statement of Trump's character. I'll never have to "east my words." If you can refute any of the characteristics I pointed out please do. I hope for our country's sake he doesn't take America down.
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I knew his past, but I certainly cannot call anyone down concerning personal sin.

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

After prayer and my concern for my nation I chose Trump.

IMO Hillary would have led us down a marxist path. To not vote would have been a Hillary vote.
Not only marxism but the shedding of helpless and innocent blood before they even see the light of day.

Trump/Pence have promised to repeal Roe vs Wade and appoint pro-life justices to the SCOTUS.
For this reason I and many other Christians chose Trump, in my case admittedly a gamble that he keeps his word.

psalm 106
37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,
38 And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood.

HankD
 
FollowTheWay

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Are you an expert on international diplomacy? I think not and neither am I but take a look at China's and the world's response.
 
HankD

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FollowTheWay said:
Are you an expert on international diplomacy? I think not and neither am I but take a look at China's and the world's response.
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True, then why did you bring accusation by innuendo admittedly not being an expert in international diplomacy?
If you are not such an expert how then can you say "it has to be done in the right way, through international diplomacy".

Plus neither of us has any idea what Trump said to Taiwan's president Tsai Ing-wen to further prove your point about both of us.

You have your propaganda you consume and I have mine. Some believe the phone call was proper:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...0169a2-bb00-11e6-ac85-094a21c44abc_story.html

Look FTW, my objective is not to argue for the sake of one-upsmanship.
FWIW I have said it before on the BB and to others in my sphere of influence.
A new world war is brewing and seems very much inevitable.

Trump IMO may very well have to lead us into that inevitable war.
But he has a spine and is fearless (IMO) and we just might win.
The alternative candidate(s) in my opinion would surrender and the bloodshed would be even greater as those who hate us hate us with the venom of that great serpent. I believe a new holocaust is coming for western citizens.

My prayer is that a thermo-nuclear war is averted.
However in spite of the prayers of this nation WWII went out of control and ended in atomic warfare.

We have the right to defend ourselves and our nation.
As a veteran, even as old as I am, I will continue to keep my oath to do so as best I can.

I want Trump at the helm as commander in chief.
He is reminiscent of Harry (Give them heck) Truman and yes (being OLD) I remember him well.

HankD
 
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