What Would YOU see as being "Disputable Doctrines?"

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Be careful with your calvinistic zeal.

 

Now why in heavens name would you say that.....was Spurgeon, Lloyd-Jones, Boyce, Luther, Pink etc werent they all enthusiastic about there theology? Does enthusiasm weaken the gospel message?

 

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Where have I not spoken the truth. And if I have spoken wrongly or erred, I usually have apologized. I don't speak lies about others, and deliberately so. I may be blunt and forthright. But I don't lie.
It is not faith that saves. That is a lie. We don't believe that.
It is not grace that saves. If you believe that you are deceived.
It is Christ that saves. He alone can save. Check John 14:6

 

Perhaps he had in mind those posts that fall into this category:

For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. (Romans 10:2)

 

If they are preaching the gospel to me they are barking up the wrong tree.
I am already saved, as should be all those that are in this forum. So to do exercise that right they should stay behind their own pulpits.

 

I'll just be me and keep my zeal for Christ and truth.

 

Thanks and not a problem Tom. :thumbsup:

 

I like the word ignorance and you know that! It's due to me knowing what it means. I recall an exchange between you and I concerning this, leading me to teach you what it means and sharing with you that it isn't a word worthy of infractions. I see you now agree and have chosen to use this good descriptive word yourself against me personally, all the while lending to others and myself the same liberty to also use this good descriptive word. :wavey:

Not that you are correct in your assumption, it's rather that you do err within your own false, unwarranted, assumptions yet again.

You are the one posting here out of ignorance of what I know, as I do know what non-cals believe, and after reading much of your beliefs as a non-cal, others, myself included, are able handily to point out your errors. Thus we have the BB to debate your fallacies in a forum.

By the way, I was what one would've called a non-cal as an IFB pastor. Fortunately by the grace of God, and by His leadership, I have come to see the truths of DoG, and embrace the teachings of Calvinistic theology. :thumbsup:

 

You've rather desribed yourself here.

When I say grace saves, just as Paul said "by grace you are saved" (Ephesians 2:8) both he and I know what this term means, and that it is descriptive of Jesus alone saving. You've missed that somehow in the passage, and I apologize I didn't elaborate this truth to which you are responding, and share the truth of it with you in detail. I do, however, appreciate the opportunity to teach what it means, and to share this great truth at this time with you. You have to learn to dig deeper to get contextual meanings and understanding, and basic subject knowledge that grace here refers to that of Christ, and that He alone saves.

 

Not sure I would conclude the non-cals to that level. I would like to hear their response to this. However, I do see within your remarks a bit of truth as several hold that man is just not that bad and some reject the truths of Romans 3, 8, Ephesians, Colossians as far as the indictments upon the lost state of man within those passages.

I believe this is because they fail to see man as God sees man from His view, and in that, they are desribing how they feel about man from their view, which is erroneous and sheds much light upon the subject and tunrs their fallacy into a glaring error. These also hold a rather lofty view of lost man, one that God doesn't Himself hold to within His Word. I like the way Paul saw himself, his efforts, religion, works after he met Christ, and it wasn't pretty, good, nor was it acceptabe whatsoever before holy God. :thumbsup:

 

Not picking at you Brother, but if we were dead as you say we were, then how could God kill the "old man"? You can't kill something that is already dead. So, here shows where being spiritually dead means "seperated from God". When God forgives our sins, He places us in Christ, thereby, being reconciled back to God, through Jesus. I agree that nothing was good in the "old man", being seperated from God by sin. The old man, being "dead in sins and trespasses", is put into God's righteousness by Jesus' shed blood.

Well, God in essence, did "reclaim" us by sending His Son to die for us. Look at Hosea and Gomer for a perfect example. Gomer was Hosea's wife, and though she belonged to him by being his wife, he still had to buy her back for thirty pieces of silver. That is what Jesus did for God's creation. Although we belonged to Him via creation, Jesus bought us back for thirty pieces of silver. And no, none of us could ever be good enough to merit salvation, let alone save ourself.