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When is a person saved?

percho

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When will we have put on everything that is inclusive of being a saved person? When will we possess everything we shall possess pertaining to the salvation of a child of God?

I look forward to answers.
 
When will we have put on everything that is inclusive of being a saved person? When will we possess everything we shall possess pertaining to the salvation of a child of God?

I look forward to answers.

We are saved inwardly at the very moment that salvation takes place. Our physical body will be given a new gloroius look when He comes to gather His children. Does this answer you questions?
 

percho

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We are saved inwardly at the very moment that salvation takes place. Our physical body will be given a new gloroius look when He comes to gather His children. Does this answer you questions?

So I guess I can assume that at this moment in the twinkling of an eye we will then be totally saved?

Or as Paul states it; then (At that very moment) shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where thy sting? O (Hades)grave, where thy victory?

Would it be fair to say also that at this very moment the church that Jesus built will be resurrected from death, (Hades) grave thus fulfilling what Jesus said, "and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."???
 

Forest

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Adam was made from the ground, and then God breathed his soul into that "earthern vessel". When Adam sinned, he died spiritually(seperated from God, not a "flat linned" corpse), and the sentence of death was pronounced upon him, and all mankind. God told him that when he ate of the tree, that he would die. Adam ate, and he died. But, God did not lay him in a grave, did He? Spiritual death happened to him and Eve because of their sin. Later on, they died physically because of that sin.

We that come along now, have the sentence of death already placed upon us because of their evildoings. We died in Adam, which is our flesh, that is made in the likeness of Adam. We die spiritually when God imputes/accounts sin unto us.

IOW, we have the stain of sin in our flesh because we come from the post-fall cursed ground. Sin is in our flesh from birth. If sin is in our soul at conception, then sin comes from God. Our soul comes from God, and if it's already stained by sin from the very moment God gives us our soul, then God Authored that sin. Are you ready to concede this belief?
We are all b orn into this world by natural birth as natural beings without any righteousness until God quickens his elect to a spiritual life.
 

Forest

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When will we have put on everything that is inclusive of being a saved person? When will we possess everything we shall possess pertaining to the salvation of a child of God?

I look forward to answers.
Salvation of God's elect was accomplished by Christ on the cross.
 

percho

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Salvation of God's elect was accomplished by Christ on the cross.

And he is the propitiation (mercy seat or place of mercy) for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the whole world.

Safely assuming the our are the elect, just what are they elected for?
 

Forest

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And he is the propitiation (mercy seat or place of mercy) for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the whole world.

Safely assuming the our are the elect, just what are they elected for?
God elected a people before the foundation of the world, Eph 1, so that he would have a people that would honour and worship him. Had he not elected a people, none would have sought God, 1 Cor 2:14. & Ps 53:2-3. 1 John 2:2, The "OUR" sins are including himself and the children, verse 1, that he is writing to. He also is telling them not for our sins only but for the sins of the whole world of God's elect. The world spoken of here is the world of believers only according to Thayer's Greek interpretation, also the same for the word "world" in the following scriptures, John 1:29, 3:16, 3:17, 6:33, 12:47, 1 Cor 4:9, 2 Cor 5:19.
 

percho

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God elected a people before the foundation of the world, Eph 1, so that he would have a people that would honour and worship him. Had he not elected a people, none would have sought God, 1 Cor 2:14. & Ps 53:2-3. 1 John 2:2, The "OUR" sins are including himself and the children, verse 1, that he is writing to. He also is telling them not for our sins only but for the sins of the whole world of God's elect. The world spoken of here is the world of believers only according to Thayer's Greek interpretation, also the same for the word "world" in the following scriptures, John 1:29, 3:16, 3:17, 6:33, 12:47, 1 Cor 4:9, 2 Cor 5:19.

What are they elected for? Election carries with it salvation for without salvation they would be dead and could serve no purpose. What is their purpose?
 
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Forest

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What are they elected for? Election carries with it salvation for without salvation they would be dead and could serve no purpose. What is their purpose?
God elected a people before the foundation of the world, Eph 1, so that he would have a people that would honour and worship him. Had he not elected a people and had Christ to reconcile them back to him, none would have sought after God, 1 Cor 2:14 & Ps 53:2. & Ps 10:4.
 

percho

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God elected a people before the foundation of the world, Eph 1, so that he would have a people that would honour and worship him. Had he not elected a people and had Christ to reconcile them back to him, none would have sought after God, 1 Cor 2:14 & Ps 53:2. & Ps 10:4.

Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. Why?

17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

They are elected out of the nations for a purpose. Being called now is only the spring harvest, the feast of firstfruits of the Spirit. There will be another harvest in the fall.

The feast of firstfruits now
The feast of trumpets return of Jesus
Day of atonement Satan bound
feast of ingathering, tabernacles kingdom of God those called are ruling with Christ as kings and priests. Priests are teachers. That the residue of men might seek
 

Forest

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When will we have put on everything that is inclusive of being a saved person? When will we possess everything we shall possess pertaining to the salvation of a child of God?

I look forward to answers.
God does not need man's help to save him eternally. Dan 4:35, Isa 50:2.
 

Forest

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Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. Why?

17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

They are elected out of the nations for a purpose. Being called now is only the spring harvest, the feast of firstfruits of the Spirit. There will be another harvest in the fall.

The feast of firstfruits now
The feast of trumpets return of Jesus
Day of atonement Satan bound
feast of ingathering, tabernacles kingdom of God those called are ruling with Christ as kings and priests. Priests are teachers. That the residue of men might seek
Salvation is a deliverance, either eternal or timely. You must understand what the scriptures say a person is being delivered from. Most of the time it will be a timely salvation, of which people will mistakenly apply to eternal.
 
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