Where did the Lord Condemn ALL drinking of alcohol in Bible?

[puros_bran]

For the record I'm firmly in the 'don't drink' category. I don't think having a beer or whatever is a sin in and of itself... But I do believe it opens the door to paths I'd as soon not travel.

 

[RLBosley]

Again other than a trivia question it doesn't matter. but I really like trivia

Strong Drink was most likely what we would call beer, malt liquor, mead, etc.


Liquor by definition is a distilled fermentation, usually made of grains but can be produced from most anything..

Wine and strong drink are fermentations without the increased strength of distillation.

Interesting. Learn something new everyday.

For the record I'm firmly in the 'don't drink' category. I don't think having a beer or whatever is a sin in and of itself... But I do believe it opens the door to paths I'd as soon not travel.

Agreed. I also don't drink because of the association. Most men my age (24) who drink are big partiers and drink for the purpose of become drunk and that's just not something I want people to think I'm associated with.

As Paul says "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not." 1 Corinthians 10:23

 

[Gib]

Can somebody pass the popcorn?

 

[menageriekeeper]

I don't know Gib. Are you sure you want to partake of the popcorn with the rest of us? It might make you a Calvinist.

Thanks Iconoclast. I saw Iron Man 3 and Fast and Furious 6 (wasn't bad actually). Hoping to see the new Star Trek this weekend.

 

[Yeshua1]

Don't drink, don't smoke, don't chew, and don't go with girls who do.
:laugh:

Might as well laugh about it.

So THAT is what you do on saturday Night for entertainment in your newck of the woods, eh?

 

[Revmitchell]

Specific passages?

Boy, how many times has this one come up.


He didn't but getting drunk (buzzed) is condemned.

 

[saturneptune]

Boy, how many times has this one come up.


He didn't but getting drunk (buzzed) is condemned.

I can't count how many. I do not drink, but if ten foot nose Baptists would mind their own business, these threads would stop.

 

[webdog]

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

Galatians 5:21 - Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God

Isaiah 28:7 - But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

Proverbs 30:29-30- Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?
They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10-Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Isaiah 28:7- But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

Isaiah 5:22 - Woe unto them that are]mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink

Proverbs 23:20 - Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh

1 Thessalonians 5:6-7-Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

There's no excuse for a Christian to glorify, praise, and practice drinking.

Now, I'm by no means a Calvinist, but your conclusions from proof texting are way off. There are 244 passages in Scripture dealing with alcohol as both a blessing and a curse. Pulling a dozen from their context do not support your conclusions.

 

[Yeshua1]

Now, I'm by no means a Calvinist, but your conclusions from proof texting are way off. There are 244 passages in Scripture dealing with alcohol as both a blessing and a curse. Pulling a dozen from their context do not support your conclusions.

Think it can be proven that there is NO passage prohibiting any alcohol drinking, many against doing to exess/drunkeness, and that under chrsitian liberty I can feel free to take a cold beer at the ball park, but if seated with the DR, out of charity towards him, order a diet pop instead!

 

[salzer mtn]

I think I've ask this before, why do you drink ? It can't be because it taste good, you have to aquire a taste for it. So that means you had to endure the taste before you became accustom to it. So that means you wanted to be a socialite. Or could your reason for drinking be because you were heavy drinkers before the Lord saved you and you can't put it down ?

 

[Yeshua1]

I think I've ask this before, why do you drink ? It can't be because it taste good, you have to aquire a taste for it. So that means you had to endure the taste before you became accustom to it. So that means you wanted to be a socialite. Or could your reason for drinking be because you were heavy drinkers before the Lord saved you and you can't put it down ?

The ironic thing about all this is that I don't drink at all, just tastes bad to me, but do give Grace to allow others to do such if they are not convicted to not do it!

 

[webdog]

I think I've ask this before, why do you drink ? It can't be because it taste good, you have to aquire a taste for it.

question begging, assuming a point up for debate as truth.

So that means you had to endure the taste before you became accustom to it. So that means you wanted to be a socialite.

Faulty conclusions based on the initial false premise

Or could your reason for drinking be because you were heavy drinkers before the Lord saved you and you can't put it down ?

Yet another faulty conclusion.

I drink because I like the taste and the fact it 'gladdens the heart of man'. I also like how it helps you fall asleep and now it also lower inhibitions. Some think this is bad, I disagree completely as it the object of the inhibition that makes it bad.

 

[saturneptune]

I think I've ask this before, why do you drink ? It can't be because it taste good, you have to aquire a taste for it. So that means you had to endure the taste before you became accustom to it. So that means you wanted to be a socialite. Or could your reason for drinking be because you were heavy drinkers before the Lord saved you and you can't put it down ?

As I said above, I do not drink, but the answer to your question is that it is none of your concern who does or who does not drink.

 

[pinoybaptist]

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

Galatians 5:21 - Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God

Isaiah 28:7 - But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

Proverbs 30:29-30- Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?
They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10-Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Isaiah 28:7- But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

Isaiah 5:22 - Woe unto them that are]mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink

Proverbs 23:20 - Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh

1 Thessalonians 5:6-7-Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

There's no excuse for a Christian to glorify, praise, and practice drinking.

well, I don't know if the "Dr" is still around since he threatened to live us to our "hypocrisy and wickedness" on this board, but NONE of these Scriptures condemn alcohol more than its abuse.
I abused alcohol in my time especially in my teens.
Would wake up sometimes with the police politely sitting in our living room (my dad was a cop, too) waiting for me to wake up so they could take me to lock up and wait for whoever it was whose store or establishment I messed up (my dad never stood between me and the law), or whoever owned the jaw or nose I musta broken.
They say there's no such thing as alcoholic black outs ?
yeah. right.

 

[DrJamesAch]

well, I don't know if the "Dr" is still around since he threatened to live us to our "hypocrisy and wickedness" on this board, but NONE of these Scriptures condemn alcohol more than its abuse.
I abused alcohol in my time especially in my teens.
Would wake up sometimes with the police politely sitting in our living room (my dad was a cop, too) waiting for me to wake up so they could take me to lock up and wait for whoever it was whose store or establishment I messed up (my dad never stood between me and the law), or whoever owned the jaw or nose I musta broken.
They say there's no such thing as alcoholic black outs ?
yeah. right.

Go back and read the bottom of post 49.

 

[pinoybaptist]

Go back and read the bottom of post 49.

oh, hi.
I see you're still here.
no malice in that statement.
lol.
there's no leaving the Baptist Board, you see.
I tried once.
there just ain' no feature that deactivates somebody's account, it stays open, even if one is "banned", unless it's changed.
lotsa things changed around here since I joined, especially with regards to the ads.
anyways, yeah, I did go and read, and I stand corrected.

 

[quantumfaith]

I don't think I have seen anyone Calvinist or non-Cal who extolls misusing Christian liberty to "live like Devils" or glorify drunkenness or anything else.

I have learned quite a bit about some things from Calvinists on this board (just not Soterilogical issues ) and I haven't seen any of them taking liscense to "live like devils". Even if they did.....I don't for a minute think that their Soteriological system is the reason for it. Nothing about Calvinism that I can think of, as much as I disagree with it would justify worldly living.

:applause::applause::applause:

 

[salzer mtn]

question begging, assuming a point up for debate as truth. Faulty conclusions based on the initial false premise Yet another faulty conclusion.

I drink because I like the taste and the fact it 'gladdens the heart of man'. I also like how it helps you fall asleep and now it also lower inhibitions. Some think this is bad, I disagree completely as it the object of the inhibition that makes it bad.

Yet another faulty conclusion.

 

[salzer mtn]

As I said above, I do not drink, but the answer to your question is that it is none of your concern who does or who does not drink.

I must have hit a nerve.

 

[webdog]

Yet another faulty conclusion.

You asked a question, and my opinion is a faulty conclusion? :laugh: