So who leads the worship?ReformedBaptist said:We dont have any of those either. lol
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So who leads the worship?ReformedBaptist said:We dont have any of those either. lol
TCGreek said:I got two young ones, and they are at that age.
What am I expected to do if I come to visit your church?
Pastor Larry said:So who leads the worship?
ReformedBaptist said:Take care of them. hahaha...
I actually think we would have some sort of nursery if there was room.
TCGreek said:Let's say you have room, Where's the Scripture for nursery?
ReformedBaptist said:No clue. I am not the pastor of the church TC. If they did it, they would do it without biblical support.
PastorSBC1303 said:To me this is one of those issues that some people get worked up over for absolutely no reason.
As Pastor Larry said, youth ministry can be done the right way and in a way that glorifies God and honors His Word. That should be the focus of any ministry of the church.
There are enough problems in ministry already there is no need to go looking for more, IMO.
PastorSBC1303 said:To me this is one of those issues that some people get worked up over for absolutely no reason.
As Pastor Larry said, youth ministry can be done the right way and in a way that glorifies God and honors His Word. That should be the focus of any ministry of the church.
There are enough problems in ministry already there is no need to go looking for more, IMO.
ReformedBaptist said:No clue.
1) From what I have seen of teen ministry -- sometimes you ARE their parents. Many parents of kids involved in our ministries couldn't care where their kids were on Monday nights when we held 2 hour game-Bible study meetings at 13 locations for them in Memphis. And RB -- we got to reach them as early as possible!! Do you know how the statistices decline for their chances of salvation as they age?? And then, I praise God I was saved as a teen!! I'm now the opposite age of my rebirth. I was 16 then and 61 now!! God has been so good to me!! Without the guidance of the Spirit all that time, I tremble to think where I would be today.ReformedBaptist said:It was when I was on staff with a church as their youth pastor that I really started to question the validity of the role of a youth pastor. What was my problem? I couldn't find it in the Scriptures. Concerning the training and teaching of children of all ages I kept finding that responsibility placed right in the lap of fathers (not to the exclusion of a mother's instruction).
Now I want to say that you have to be called and quickened to this ministry. Hormones are racing at that age and it takes a pretty compelling distraction to focus them on spiritual things! The church I go to now has a whole separate facility (called "Elevation")/gym/activity center/pastor for them but the kids here LOVE it!!! I believe my 2 nephews were saved through that ministry. One's parents probably converted through the "connection" as well.Now, I was a pretty bad youth minister. I rarely gave time in the "program" for siliness, horseplay, drama, skits, et. et. My handouts were merely reprinting the Scriptures and expounding the Word of God. Of course, this bored to tears some of my middle school and high school youth. lol
TCGreek said:Let's say you have room, Where's the Scripture for nursery?
Gayla said:1 Cor 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed.
:laugh:
pastor larry said:So who leads the worship?
ReformedBaptist said:Whoever can play the piano. If you really care to know, the piano sits in the back where someone plays it, and some flutes and violins also, someone stands in the pulpit to tell folks where to turn in the hymnal or psalter, and we sing. Pretty simple.
ReformedBaptist said:You're right about folks getting worked up. But I suppose if you question a long-held tradition, or someone has a commitment to something you're questioning, they can get worked up about it.
Gayla said:1 Cor 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed.
:laugh:
rbell said:But using a piano, flute, and violin "violates the regulative principle" just as much as youth ministry. :saint: :BangHead:
I get worked up over exactly 27.5 things in life. Threads in the BaptistBoard are not one of those 27.5 things. :thumbs:
Regarding your statement...replace the word "commitment" with "calling" and you begin to understand why some of us defend youth ministry. Sorry to be bold here, but I hold two views that sometimes seem to conflict. Priesthood of the believer, baby. You don't want youth ministry in your church, then don't have it. However...my calling is not unbiblical, nor is how I am living out that calling.
ReformedBaptist said:So you have a dog in this fight. I don't.