Where is heaven?

[Oseas3]

1) Neither Jude 1:6-7, nor Genesis 6:4 is germane to the location of Paradise. However, Paradise and the third heaven, not the fourth heaven, are equated in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4.

2) Matthew 8:22 is NOT germane to the location of Paradise. The idea is actually that we, followers of Christ, must stay focused on the job at hand, leading those still with the opportunity of salvation, to Christ.

3) Scripture does NOT tell us what became of Elijah's physical body, the conjecture of people not withstanding.

4) My post did NOT address the New Heaven God will establish at the end of the age.

5) Yes, my thinking and interpretation of scripture is from my human perspective, as enlightened by my Helper, sent to guide me.

Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective.
Paul Apostle through his epistle 1Corinthians 2:14 left very clear, saying: -> 14 The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of GOD: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

[Oseas3]

Try addressing the actual topic, rather than disparaging others or changing the subject to your off topic conjectures.

John 3
34 For he whom GOD hath sent speaketh the words of GOD: for GOD giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that GOD is true.

 

[Oseas3]

Lower your hopes that he will do anything of the kind. He uses just about any thread to cut & paste his dogmatic interpretations in which if you challenge you are either demonic or Hell bound. You will notice he will address you as 'brother' until you disagree with him and then you better 'be prepared or get ready'!

Very prideful, arrogant and judgmental as another BB member has noted.

The adherents of the apostate Church of Rome, the IDOLATER Roman Catholic Church, guided by the religious MONSTER having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy, they all fell into the traps of Devil in the blackness of the darkness. Spiritually they all are blind, guided by blinds, the Popes, the Papacy.

Paul Apostle wrote to the Curch of Rome, suying unto them by his epistle:->Romans 1:18-25:->

18 For the wrath of GOD is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of GOD is manifest in them; for GOD hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew GOD, they glorified Him not as GOD, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible GOD into an image made like to corruptible MAN,...->(They do this beatifying defuncts of MAN and women, like mother Teresa among thousands, and countless defuncts of men). Vade retro satana.

24 Wherefore GOD also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of GOD into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

 

[Oseas3]

Since I don't know how to respond to him, I just don't respond at all.

What does the Word of GOD say? -> Ecclesiastes 9:17:-> 17 The words of wise men->(the Holy Scriptures that were written by 24 elders, beginning by Moses) are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools.

 

[Oseas3]

I stopped trying long ago

What does the most High GOD say? Habakkuk 2:20-King James Version (KJV):-> 20 The Lord is in His Holy Temple: let all the earth keep silence before Him.

And Revelation 11:19 says:-> 19 And the temple of GOD was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple the ark of His testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Alleluia.

 

[Oseas3]

I welcome good-faith input, even if I strongly disagree, but I feel I can't respond appropriately if I don't understand the point somebody is making.

Luke 17:6-10:-> 6 The Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.

 

[Van]

John 3
34 For he whom GOD hath sent speaketh the words of GOD: for GOD giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that GOD is true.

In post #61 you addressed me. Nuff said.
In post #62, we find John 3:32-34 posted out of order. Here is the same passage rendered in an interpretive translation.

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“What Jesus Christ has seen and heard, of this He testifies; and His unique and divinely given testimony has been given to no one else. ​

The person (Christ Jesus) who was divinely given His testimony has certified that God is true.​

“For He whom God sent (Christ Jesus) speaks the words of God; for He does not give the Spirit in limited measure." Here the gift of the Spirit refers to the gift of our Spirit God's revelation in the testimony of Christ.​

Or in other words, the passage supports the validly of Christ's testimony found in our New Testament. Thus our understanding is indeed from God's perspective.

 

[Walter]

What does the Word of GOD say? -> Ecclesiastes 9:17:-> 17 The words of wise men->(the Holy Scriptures that were written by 24 elders, beginning by Moses) are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools.

This has nothing to do with the OP. Try to address the topic

 

[Walter]

What does the Word of GOD say? -> Ecclesiastes 9:17:-> 17 The words of wise men->(the Holy Scriptures that were written by 24 elders, beginning by Moses) are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools.

Has nothing to do with the OP

 

[Walter]

The adherents of the apostate Church of Rome, the IDOLATER Roman Catholic Church, guided by the religious MONSTER having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy, they all fell into the traps of Devil in the blackness of the darkness. Spiritually they all are blind, guided by blinds, the Popes,

Somebody's cranky today

 

[rockytopva]

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. - Luke 17:21

 

[JonC]

Well, maybe it's me, I'm used to someone quoting Scripture and then explaining it according to the topic.

That way I can respond understanding the other view.

Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.

Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.

 

[Charlie24]

Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.

Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.

That would fit perfect if the topic was Hades.