Originally posted by DHK:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 3AngelsMom:
Prove from Scripture that the wicked receive immortality.
Rev.20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
--Please note here that both the beast and the false prophet are actual people. The beast is a figurative word to describe the anti-christ, who will be a man that will be a leader of the world. He will, nevertheless be a man. People have speculated throughout the ages that this man could have been: Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Gorbachev, Clinton, etc. He will be a one-world dictator.
The false prophet will be a man, the leader of a one-world religion. Perhaps the pope, as many think. Some think he will be the leader of Islam, and others a Charismatic interdenominationalist. Whatever the case he will be a man. These two individuals are human. And the Bible clearly says that these two “mortals” will “be tormented day and night forever and ever” They cannot do that without an immortal body.
Following that we have the scene of the Great White Throne Judgement, which is also the time of the Second resurrection, or the resurrection of the unjust.
Rev.20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
--There is a first resurrection. Blessed are those who take part in the first resurrection. It takes place before the Tribulation even starts. There is a second resurrection. It takes place after the thousand years is finished. Verse 5 says “the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.” That is when the Second resurrection will take place. That is when the Great White Throne Judgement will take place—described just a few verses later in verses 11-15.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
--In verse 12, John says, “I saw the dead.” It was not spirits that he saw, it was the spiritually dead (those without Christ) in Heaven standing before God. The only way that they could be transported from earth to Heaven is to be resurrected in a body that would be immortal. That is what the resurrection is. They receive their immortal bodies then, at the resurrection. They stand before God at the Great White Throne Judgement.
They are judged. And then.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
---What is implied in this verse is the same punishment that is specifically described in verse 10—and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever.
DHK [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]It would take me DAYS to go point by point to clear up all of that. There is so much falsehood in that, that my mind is reeling.
The Anti-Christ is NOT one man.
If he is, explain this:
1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come,
even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
And this:
1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and
even now already is it in the world.
And this:
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers
are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
And the beast, if he is just ONE man explain this:
Rev 13:3 And I saw
one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a
woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having
seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The
seven heads are seven mountains, on which the
woman sitteth.
Rev 17:10 And there are
seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
Rev 17:12 And the
ten horns which thou sawest are
ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Rev 17:15 And he saith unto me, The
waters which thou sawest, where the
whore sitteth, are
peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Rev 17:16 And the
ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall
hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
Rev 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
Rev 17:18 And the
woman which thou sawest is that
great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
One of his heads: the 7 heads. Only one is wounded.
Woman- a church
Seven heads and ten horns- how could a man have that?
Seven heads ARE seven mountains- know of any city that sits on 7 mountains?
Woman sits on them- the church sits on the 7 hills.
Seven Kings- how could this be just ONE man? It said 5 had ALREADY fallen at THAT time. That one IS right then, and only one was to come. Followed by the 'beast that was, is not, and is OF the 7', so he actually isn't another one, he is one of the old ones.
Ten Horns are ten Kings- again how can a man have ten kings on his head?
The Waters WHERE the Whore sits are people, etc. This church sits in the midst of many people of different languages and cultures.
The Ten Horns/ Kings, will hate the church and make it desolate and burn it with fire.
The Woman is THAT great city that reigneth over the kings of the earth. The Church reigns over the kings. John spoke of this 'woman' as THAT city, like he knew which one. He said the church REIGNS. Note that it didn't say WILL reign. It was there in the time of John. It is the city that reigned then. It reigns now.
Note: The 'woman' is in control of the 'beast' which is evident by the symbolism of her 'riding' the beast.
Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
