Who Did Cain Marry?

[quantumfaith]

GT, if you are half as intelligent as I think you are, you will go silent.

 

[annsni]

So being Polygenesist is OK with you?

I can answer for me. No, it's not. But it's as much a topic to be debated as life coming from Mars instead of Creation. It's not biblical so there's no reason to say more than "Wrong". Period.

 

[preacher4truth]

This is so easy!!!!

HIS WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He married his wife? Weren't they already married by that point? :laugh:

My advice: interpret the text not the event. The text doesn't say, so it doesn't matter. To focus on the event is to make Scripture more about history and less about theology.

I don't totally agree. There are other events we focus on, such as the resurrection and it is still a theological study, thus history and theology both have their place in this study. Now concerning Cains wife, we don't know, not to be known. That said, some still study different angles on differing subjects and biblical topics/events to come up with some differing conclusions. I believe the Cain's wife issue not of grave importance, nor is it to be obsessed over.

 

[Baptist4life]

I believe the Cain's wife issue not of grave importance, nor is it to be obsessed over.

Well, I do. I can tell you if I was attending a church where the pastor told me they believe God created another whole race of people so Cain could have someone to marry, I'd be GONE out of that church QUICKLY.

 

[preacher4truth]

Well, I do. I can tell you if I was attending a church where the pastor told me they believe God created another whole race of people so Cain could have someone to marry, I'd be GONE out of that church QUICKLY.

That would be extra-biblical revelation. I don't know any Baptists in 'real-time' who believe that nonsense.

 

[Baptist4life]

That would be extra-biblical revelation. I don't know any Baptists in 'real-time' who believe that nonsense.

Roby does!!! That's the whole point of this thread that you apparently haven't read.

From his own mouth (or fingers):

Incest is about as strong a "taboo" as there is, even among people who've never hearda God. And we know, without a doubt, that such incest usually produces a 'defective' child, who is both mentally and physically inferior to other children.

That 'pure gene pool' stuff is also horse feathers. We have the same gene pool as all homo sapinns have ever had. what's changed is the condition of the earth. Even after A&E sinned, the earth itself was still pretty pristine. And it remained so after the Flood, with diseases, etc. slowly spreading. By David's time, a person past age 70 was rare.(I realize Dave's life was cut short by CHF as parta his punishment for his earlier great sins, but again, people older than 70 were rare.)

As for the races...Like produces like, just as GOD said. Black people with no other racial ancestry always produce black children. So do whites, Asians, etc.
There are five distinct races of people-white, black, Asian, "Indian"(Mongols, American Indians, Ilyuts, etc.) and Bushmen. Each reproduces after its own kind if there's no interracial mixing in their ancestry. Now, I'd liketa see an explanation for the races, besides that silly 'pure gene pool' stuff. And NO, they were NOT 'mutants. A mutant of any creature does not reproduce itself, but reproduces likenesses of its parents.

Now, I have NOT unequivocally ever said that GOD produced other people to provide spouses for A&E's children, and Noah's grandchildren. But I HAVE said that such creation is one possibility of where those people obtained spouses.What I AM saying is that GOD did NOT condone incest between full siblings. And we see the CURSE of the "mystery, Babylon" religion descended from the incestuous union of Nimrod with his own mother Semiramis.


I am open to any answer where Cain's wife came from that DOESN'T INVOLVE INCEST! Same for a VALID explanation of where the various races came from.

 

[preacher4truth]

Roby does!!! That's the whole point of this thread that you apparently haven't read.

No, I've read it.

 

[quantumfaith]

Roby,


I will go to church with you.

 

[Baptist4life]

Roby,


I will go to church with you.

Is it true, as someone posted (I don't remember who right now) that you don't believe in the Genesis story of creation either? You think Adam and Eve "evolved" from their parents, or something like that?

 

[quantumfaith]

Is it true, as someone posted (I don't remember who right now) that you don't believe in the Genesis story of creation either? You think Adam and Eve "evolved" from their parents, or something like that?

I believe God created the heavens and the earth, Adam and Eve.

Yes, I do not "necessarily" have a problem with the concept of evolution. Although, I do have a problem with naturalism, be sure you understand the difference.

And yes, I am Old Earth (as many would say). I do accept that the Universe is approximately 13-15 billion years old, and our earth and solar system is approximately 4.5 billion years old.

And I like grits and boiled peanuts.

 

[Baptist4life]

I love grits, but never had boiled peanuts. Having my entire family from the south, I don't know how I missed out on those!

 

[quantumfaith]

I love grits, but never had boiled peanuts. Having my entire family from the south, I don't know how I missed out on those!

See, there is at least one thing (though I suspect there are others) we can agree on. Grits.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Baptist4life]

See, there is at least one thing (though I suspect there are others) we can agree on. Grits.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::godisgood:

 

[percho]

And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Gen 2:23

Were they married, husband and wife, at this moment? Or were they espoused for marriage?

And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Matt 19:4,5

Because they were male and female were they espoused, not yet married?

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Gen 2:24

At this point are they espoused or married?

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. Gen 2:25

Gen 3:6 They eat the fruit, and; And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; Gen 3:7

and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it -- dying thou dost die.' Gen 2:17 YLT

And you who were dead in trespasses and sins; Eph 2:1

When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. Matt 1:18,25

 

[Greektim]

Me? Silent? NEVER!!!

B4L, just b/c I value the narrative over the event does not mean I don't care about... whatever that term was you used. I just find that it is not an important issue. If you get sidetracked on this, you will miss the huge point of Gen. 3-11.

 

[Baptist4life]

Me? Silent? NEVER!!!

B4L, just b/c I value the narrative over the event does not mean I don't care about... whatever that term was you used. I just find that it is not an important issue. If you get sidetracked on this, you will miss the huge point of Gen. 3-11.

And I'll repeat.......I think someone who has the belief that God created another group of people APART from Adam and Eve, that He created the "races" (black, white, asian, etc.) separately, very important. It totally undermines the entire Bible. You don't get the creation story, Adam and Eve's "fall", Eve being the mother of ALL living, then IMHO, you don't have anything right. Very important, I'd say.

 

[Greektim]

And I'll repeat.......I think someone who has the belief that God created another group of people APART from Adam and Eve, that He created the "races" (black, white, asian, etc.) separately, very important. It totally undermines the entire Bible. You don't get the creation story, Adam and Eve's "fall", Eve being the mother of ALL living, then IMHO, you don't have anything right. Very important, I'd say.

But I am saying you are asking and answering a question that is moot. Roby aside. It doesn't matter who he married (even if there was even an historical Cain). The Bible is not history but theology. That is not to say it is not historical, only that its purpose is not history. Therefore, the events are not inspired, the text and the meaning within the text is. What does the story of Cain and the surrounding stories between Gen. 3-11 teach? That is the question.

 

[Baptist4life]

It doesn't matter who he married (even if there was even an historical Cain).

Now I see where you stand.........you seem to think the Bible is just a bunch of stories to teach us lessons..............that's very sad. Nothing else you post has any credibility with me.

 

[Greektim]

Now I see where you stand.........you seem to think the Bible is just a bunch of stories to teach us lessons..............that's very sad. Nothing else you post has any credibility with me.

Why??? B/c the Bible is a history book to you? I'm not trying to gain your approval. I am just trying to get you to think past the simplistic way of thinking about the OT. Like I said, the Bible (and that includes the OT) is primarily a theological book, not history. That doesn't make it fiction. That doesn't mean it is not historical. That just means it has a thrust that you don't seem to want to acknowledge.

PS... if you are going to represent my views, please do so in a respectful manner trying to present them accurately. I neither believe that the OT is a bunch of stories (I believe in a metanarrative) nor that it is to be interpreted moralistically (as you most likely do). I have a missional/messianic hermeneutic and apply that to the OT. If you want to know more, then have the common courtesy to ask. Otherwise, I can lob the same slime at you and say that "nothing else you post has any credibility with me" (as if my opinion of you or you of me is relevant to truth).

 

[TCassidy]

Who did Cain marry?

And that was, and still is, the question.

The bible says Eve was the mother of all living. Either Eve was the mother of Cain's wife, or God is a liar.

If I have to choose between Roby being a liar or God being a liar, Roby will lose every time.