Who Did Cain Marry?

[Baptist4life]

As an outside observer to this spat I do have a question which may illuminate differences in your respective positions regarding KJV and Cain's wife. Robycop3 freely admits his position on Cain's wife does not have direct Biblical support. Do you also admit your position on the KJV has no scriptural support?

*sigh*................I have no "position" on the KJV other than I have used it my whole life, and it's my preferred version.

 

[InTheLight]

*sigh*................I have no "position" on the KJV other than I have used it my whole life, and it's my preferred version.

OK, I'll take your word that you are KJVP and not KJVO. I've used the KJV all my life as well and have recently started reading and using other versions (NKJV, NIV).

 

[robycop3]

First let me say, I am not KJVO. But you know that. Second, let me say, I was not "booted" from Carm. I was suspended a few times, as were you, and most of the other posters on there, with the exception of BeukeBoom, who somehow can break all the forum rules he wants as many times as he wants, while he himself reports everyone who disagrees with him. I got fed up with the forum and simply left.

Now, as far as your hypocrisy. The fact that you mock and berate others for "having no Biblical support" for something which they believe, while you have " no Biblical support" for something you believe IS hypocrisy! A child can see that. Now, I'm done with all this. You've very plainly shown your un-Scriptural belief to everyone. I need say nothing more.

Well, that's good, cuz you haven't proven a thing except that you were full of spite. I hope you've asked JESUS to remove that stuff from your psyche.

I openly and candidly admit that both Scripture and secular history are silent about the origin of Cain's wife, and the spouses of Adam and Eve's other children. I merely made a SUGGESTION about where their spouses mighta come from; I have NOT DECLARED that I believe it.But, OTOH, neither you nor anyone else has proven that suggestion couldn't possibly have occurred.

And your constant siding with KJVOs speax volumes, especially when it's been PROVEN that KJVO is man-made and false.

And, I have NEVER been suspended from CARM. I've had a few posts edited, as we have had done right here, so please don't add to your pile by telling another untruth.

Now, if you're REALLY done with this, so am I.

"MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING."

 

[robycop3]

Hi!

I re-opened this because "Baptist 4 Life", after saying here that she was done with this, has brought it up again, in the "Bible Versions/translations" forum, in a thread called "An Answer To A Question".

This proves the value of B4L's statements.

She said she refuted me on this, which is incorrect. I tole her above that I was open for any explanation of the origin of Cain's wife that DID NOT INCLUDE INCEST, and I still am. She FAILED to provide such an explanation.

But she said she was done with this, but showed us she isn't. Now, what did GOD say about all liars ? ?

Now, shall we let sleeping dogs sleep, or...

 

[Jerome]

I argue that the BEST explanation is that GOD created more people after A&E. They argue that Scripture sez we are ALL descended from A&E. I agree, of course, but I remind them that we are each descended from ONE man and ONE woman, whom in turn are each themselves descended from ONE man and ONE woman; thus we each have FOUR grandparents, etc. etc. back thru successive generations. For example, though my surname is Roby, there are umpteen other surnames in my ancestry, but I am descended from ONE original Roby and his wife somewhere sometime. So, while A&E were the first homo sapiens created by GOD, why could He not have later created other people to be spouses for the second generation, that is, the children of A&E? Their children would still be descendants of A&E. Same goes for Noah's grandkids

What in the world?

Polygenesis

Variations of this theory were popular among ancient Pagan thinkers, especially when the need came to respond to the Christian account of creation. It has also been favoured by a number of 20th century occult writers.

Pre-Adamism and co-Adamism have the advantage that they avoid the need for incestuous pairings in the first generation after Adam and Eve; on the other hand, they contradict many parts of the Bible. They also have often been interpreted in a racist manner

 

[Baptist4life]

I am SO glad this is reopened! And I do NOT appreciate being called a liar, roby. Go back and read through this thread again, you'll find lots of responses that explain where Cain's wife came from, and NONE of them have anything to do with God creating another race! I daresay, what you believe is just plain WEIRD, along with being un-Biblical.

 

[robycop3]

I am SO glad this is reopened! And I do NOT appreciate being called a liar, roby. Go back and read through this thread again, you'll find lots of responses that explain where Cain's wife came from, and NONE of them have anything to do with God creating another race! I daresay, what you believe is just plain WEIRD, along with being un-Biblical.

MMRRPP!

I did NOT call you a liar. I reminded us of what GOD said about all liars.

BUT...

YOU said above that YOU were done with this subject, but YOU brought it up again in the forum/thread I named above. What does that tell us?

And all your explanations above include INCEST. I do NOT believe God EVER condoned incest between parent/offspring or full siblings, & I doubt if many other baptists believe He did, either. so again, I await an explanation for the origin of Cain's wife that does NOT involve incest!

But remember, YOU started this subject up again, in that other forum/thread, not I-after you said you were done with it.

 

[Baptist4life]

MMRRPP!

I did NOT call you a liar. I reminded us of what GOD said about all liars.

BUT...

YOU said above that YOU were done with this subject, but YOU brought it up again in the forum/thread I named above. What does that tell us?

And all your explanations above include INCEST. I do NOT believe God EVER condoned incest between parent/offspring or full siblings, & I doubt if many other baptists believe He did, either. so again, I await an explanation for the origin of Cain's wife that does NOT involve incest!

But remember, YOU started this subject up again, in that other forum/thread, not I-after you said you were done with it.

Well, since you haven't stopped with your un-Biblical nonsense about Cain, I changed my mind! Woman's perogative, don't you know! Why is it I am the only one you respond to? MANY others on here have posted rebuttals and links to information that explain where Cain got his wife, yet you totally ignore them.....why? here's just the latest. Seems you fit the definition of a Polygenesist, in direct conflict with Scripture!......

http://www.conservapedia.com/Polygenesis

Creationist polygenesis claims that God did not create just a single first couple, Adam and Eve, from whom all humanity is descended, but rather many first couples. This however contradicts many verses in the Bible which say all humanity is descended from Adam and Eve.

 

[robycop3]

Well, since you haven't stopped with your un-Biblical nonsense about Cain, I changed my mind! Woman's perogative, don't you know! Why is it I am the only one you respond to? MANY others on here have posted rebuttals and links to information that explain where Cain got his wife, yet you totally ignore them.....why? here's just the latest. Seems you fit the definition of a Polygenesist, in direct conflict with Scripture!......

http://www.conservapedia.com/Polygenesis

I've read'em all; they all involve INCEST!

"Woman's prerogative"? Actually, there's another name for it.

Just face it-you reneged on a statement you made, and it's blown up in yer face.

 

[Baptist4life]

I've read'em all; they all involve INCEST!

"Woman's prerogative"? Actually, there's another name for it.

Just face it-you reneged on a statement you made, and it's blown up in yer face.

Blown up in my face? You're funny. What's blown up in your face is the exposing of your un-Biblical, Polygenesist views. Why don't you quit berating me, and deal with the topic?

 

[preacher4truth]

Just waitin' for someone to shoot this dead horse!

 

[Baptist4life]

Just waitin' for someone to shoot this dead horse!

Why is it a dead horse? Do you know how many years and threads have been wasted on the KJV issue? Why don't you post your "dead horse" comment on those threads? Why don't you think that someone who claims to be a Christian, yet believes God actually created other people and races besides Adam and Eve is important to discuss? I believe this is a very relevant, and a very telling issue. If you don't, you're free to ignore the thread.

 

[annsni]

We don't shoot dead horses. We might BEAT a dead horse, which is not productive for anything and we shoot horses to kill them. But we DO bury dead horses. Maybe that's what we're looking for????

 

[preacher4truth]

Why is it a dead horse?

It's as dead as the KJVO nonsense. PErhaps you two should go at it in PM over this, or, MAYBE they'll make a separate forum for it like the C/A forum. :laugh:

Do you know how many years and threads have been wasted on the KJV issue?

Nope. And neither do you.

Why don't you post your "dead horse" comment on those threads?

Naw. I'll pass.

Why don't you think that someone who claims to be a Christian,

Inferring he is lost...please continue...

yet believes God actually created other people and races besides Adam and Eve is important to discuss?

Well thank God our salvation isn't based in our theology but in Christ alone.

You all were 'discussing' this? Could've fooled me, it looked more like inflammatory insults catapulted at one another.

I believe this is a very relevant, and a very telling issue. If you don't, you're free to ignore the thread.

Yes, we get what you mean by 'very telling'. I've addressed what you've inferred up above.

Ignore it? Not even done with my popcorn yet.




By the way ann, shooting or beating a horse that is dead, well, same futile difference and I'd prefer to pull this out and shoot it rather than beat on it.

 

[Baptist4life]

OK, how about you start discussing the OP of this thread? Or quit trying to derail it. Deal? Strange how a person with "preacher4truth" screen name doesn't want to discuss the truth about a Biblical issue.


Point is this...........several people have shown roby how wrong he is about this, and HE tries to turn it back to me instead of dealing with what other people have posted in rebuttal to him. I'm waiting for him to quit bickering about me, and answer the other posters.

 

[preacher4truth]

OK, how about you start discussing the OP of this thread? Or quit trying to derail it. Deal? Strange how a person with "preacher4truth" screen name doesn't want to discuss the truth about a Biblical issue.

OK, you took a jab at me too, no biggie. Status quo for you?

So, tell me the truth about the matter. Who did Cain marry?

 

[Greektim]

OK, you took a jab at me too, no biggie. Status quo for you?

So, tell me the truth about the matter. Who did Cain marry?

This is so easy!!!!

HIS WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My advice: interpret the text not the event. The text doesn't say, so it doesn't matter. To focus on the event is to make Scripture more about history and less about theology.

 

[Baptist4life]

OK, you took a jab at me too, no biggie. Status quo for you?

Pot meet kettle?

So, tell me the truth about the matter. Who did Cain marry?

I believe Cain married a relative. Could have been his sister, neice, second cousin, whoever. I DON'T believe God created another whole race of people. If you had read the responses from the posts on this thread from me, and several others, you'd already have known who I believe Cain married.

Who do YOU believe Cain married? Do you not think believing God created OTHER races of people separate from Adam and Eve throws a serious problem about the fall, sin, and salvation? Were those other people created sinless? Were they created as adults or children? Did they "fall" like Adam and Eve? Were they in need of a Savior? Since the Bible says Eve is the "mother of all living", what Scripture do you have to support your belief? All questions that roby sidesteps.

 

[annsni]

This is so easy!!!!

HIS WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My advice: interpret the text not the event. The text doesn't say, so it doesn't matter. To focus on the event is to make Scripture more about history and less about theology.

:thumbsup:

That about sums it up.

 

[Baptist4life]

This is so easy!!!!

HIS WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My advice: interpret the text not the event. The text doesn't say, so it doesn't matter. To focus on the event is to make Scripture more about history and less about theology.

So being Polygenesist is OK with you?

Creationist polygenesis claims that God did not create just a single first couple, Adam and Eve, from whom all humanity is descended, but rather many first couples. This however contradicts many verses in the Bible which say all humanity is descended from Adam and Eve.