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Who Needs the ‘Resistance’ When You’ve Got the GOP Writing the Budget?

carpro

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Hayward: Who Needs the 'Resistance' When You've Got the GOP Writing the Budget? - Breitbart


Why does the left bother with “Resistance” theatrics when the Republican Congress funds their entire wish list anyway?

That’s a bit of a trick question because the left still plans to seize more power and money by recapturing Congress and the White House. They’ll never stop attacking the legitimacy of the Trump administration. The only lingering mystery is why so many Republicans think they can counter this strategy by appeasing Democrats.

At a cost of hundreds of billions of dollars in other people’s money, Republicans purchase a couple of sound bites that allow them to claim they aren’t heartless monsters because they funded every left-wing priority, from “sanctuary cities” to Planned Parenthood.

In reality, these capitulations don’t win Republicans anything. Democrats will still depict them as tightwads on welfare spending, reactionaries on social policy, and footmen to the evil rich. As soon as the Republican “leaders” who meekly funded 100 percent of the Democrat agenda for 2017 object to 20, 30, or 50 percent increases in that agenda, they will be denounced as greedy pigs who want poor people to die.



It’s an article of Republican faith that they will lose any and all budget battles, no matter the size of the GOP majority, because in the final hours Democrats will simply shrug and say, “Give us what we want, or we’ll shut the government down and you’ll be blamed for it.”
 

blessedwife318

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This is why I've been done with the GOP since the convention. As long as conservatives give up their principles to vote the Republican party line, they will continue to be taken for granted. When the base abandons its stated principles to vote Republican, is it any surprise that the party will also abandon it's stated principles for power. The base has proved time and time again it will vote for them regardless of their lack of principles.

We need a new party as the GOP is no friend of conservatives.

It is up to the voters to change that by keeping with their own stated convictions.


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Squire Robertsson

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As long as the Dems can mess up passing a budget with a filibuster in the Senate, we're kinda stuck with what we got. At least, there isn't a need to overcome a presidential veto.
 

carpro

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This is why I've been done with the GOP since the convention. As long as conservatives give up their principles to vote the Republican party line, they will continue to be taken for granted. When the base abandons its stated principles to vote Republican, is it any surprise that the party will also abandon it's stated principles for power. The base has proved time and time again it will vote for them regardless of their lack of principles.

We need a new party as the GOP is no friend of conservatives.

It is up to the voters to change that by keeping with their own stated convictions.


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If this keeps happening for the next 4 years, Donald Trump will be a one term president and you may make a convert out of me. ;)


"The GOP Establishment just emerged from a presidential primary in which Donald Trump bulldozed a huge field of top-shelf Republican contenders, in no small part because the public was furious with Republican inability to make progress on a conservative agenda despite holding both House and Senate. They seem to have learned nothing from the experience."
 
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InTheLight

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It is disheartening, isn't it? Only one agency had a budget cut in the continuing resolution budget passed last weekend. The Education Department had a 1.7% funding cut. Nothing was cut in the EPA, the NIH, NEA, Planned Parenthood, PBS, etc. A lot of agencies got funding increases.

Schumer is bragging about the great things he got in this budget for progressives. Meanwhile Trump, the "master negotiator" just tweeted that he welcomes a government shutdown in September to sort everything out.

The latest rumor floating around is a hike in the federal gas tax to pay for Trump's infrastructure projects. Does that sound like conservatism? No.
 

InTheLight

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The White House is spinning the budget deal as a victory for the American people.

Mulvaney on Tuesday called it "fine" and "understandable" for Democrats to want to declare victory on the deal made to continue to fund the government through September, but pushed back on the idea "that they won and that we lost."

"The truth of the matter here is that what happened is the American people won and the president negotiated that victory for them," he said.
 

JohnDeereFan

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This is why I've been done with the GOP since the convention. As long as conservatives give up their principles to vote the Republican party line, they will continue to be taken for granted. When the base abandons its stated principles to vote Republican, is it any surprise that the party will also abandon it's stated principles for power. The base has proved time and time again it will vote for them regardless of their lack of principles.

We need a new party as the GOP is no friend of conservatives.

It is up to the voters to change that by keeping with their own stated convictions.


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I left the GOP in 2005, when I realized that Bush wasn't serious about fixing the border or about cutting the size and influence of the government, like he promised.
 

Yeshua1

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As long as the Dems can mess up passing a budget with a filibuster in the Senate, we're kinda stuck with what we got. At least, there isn't a need to overcome a presidential veto.
And the media/press will make sure trump is to blame if govt shuts down!
 

Squire Robertsson

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I agree with what another poster said. He's picking the time for the "shut down". This time around Tump is going to prepare the "killing field." In previous shutdowns, the shutdowners didn't effectively put the other side under the gun.
And the media/press will make sure trump is to blame if govt shuts down!
 

Yeshua1

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I agree with what another poster said. He's picking the time for the "shut down". This time around Tump is going to prepare the "killing field." In previous shutdowns, the shutdowners didn't effectively put the other side under the gun.
I agree with what another poster said. He's picking the time for the "shut down". This time around Tump is going to prepare the "killing field." In previous shutdowns, the shutdowners didn't effectively put the other side under the gun.
Hopefully, doing the same thing with Obamacare, as setting people up for it to fail in order to get what he wants thru!
 

InTheLight

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Outside of the appointment of Neal Gorsuch, I can't think of significant things that Trump has done that Hillary wouldn't have done the same thing.

Bomb Syria? Yep.
Sign the budget resolution? Yep.
Withdraw from TPP? Probably.
 

carpro

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The White House is spinning the budget deal as a victory for the American people.


Paul Ryan: ‘Planned Parenthood Is Not Funded’ in Budget Reconciliation Bill


House Speaker Paul Ryan said Tuesday during a press conference that “Planned Parenthood is not funded” in the budget reconciliation bill that Republicans should be able to get through the Senate with only 51 votes.


“Look at what all our pro-life groups are saying,” Ryan said. “They’re saying that Planned Parenthood legislation needs to be in the reconciliation bill – as it is – because that’s how you get it into law.”

Ryan continued:

We always knew that it takes 60 votes to pass an appropriations bill through the Senate. This bill does not have funding for Planned Parenthood. That’s important. The reconciliation bill advances the pro-life cause even further. So, no Planned Parenthood funding in here. And, by the way, [HHS Secretary] Tom Price is now the person who approves grants that go out to the states. So, we feel very comfortable we are working hand in glove with the administration to advance our pro-life priorities.

So, number one – they’re advanced here. We keep all our Hyde Amendment riders. And then our reconciliation bill – that’s the bill that you don’t need 60 votes on – that’s the bill that you don’t need to have Democrats with, and that’s the bill that where we’re advancing our cause even further, and that’s why these two efforts in conjunction with one another advance our cause and our principles quite a bit.
 

InTheLight

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GOP
2010: We need to win the House. (they win the House, nothing changes.)

2014: We need to win the Senate (they win the Senate, nothing changes.)

2016: We need to win the Presidency (they win the Presidency, nothing changes.)

2017: We need to use budget reconciliation.

2018: We need to change the Senate rules. We need to win 9 more Senate seats.

2019: We need....
 

InTheLight

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Paul Ryan: ‘Planned Parenthood Is Not Funded’ in Budget Reconciliation Bill


House Speaker Paul Ryan said Tuesday during a press conference that “Planned Parenthood is not funded” in the budget reconciliation bill that Republicans should be able to get through the Senate with only 51 votes.

"Should be able to get it through the Senate with only 51 votes."

Yes, well, Susan Collins has stated she is voting against any bill that cuts Planned Parenthood funding. So that leaves exactly 51 GOP votes left. All it takes is one GOP Senator with one other pet issue that would vote against it to defeat it.

Unless the GOP can get a Democrat or two to crossover and vote with them.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!! (I crack myself up sometimes.)
 

carpro

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"Should be able to get it through the Senate with only 51 votes."

Yes, well, Susan Collins has stated she is voting against any bill that cuts Planned Parenthood funding. So that leaves exactly 51 GOP votes left. All it takes is one GOP Senator with one other pet issue that would vote against it to defeat it.

Unless the GOP can get a Democrat or two to crossover and vote with them.

Pence would break the tie.
 

carpro

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GOP
2010: We need to win the House. (they win the House, nothing changes.)

2014: We need to win the Senate (they win the Senate, nothing changes.)

2016: We need to win the Presidency (they win the Presidency, nothing changes.)

2017: We need to use budget reconciliation.

2018: We need to change the Senate rules. We need to win 9 more Senate seats.

2019: We need....

As I said...cowards.

Democrats will not negotiate. It's smashmouth politics all the way. Republicans are too chicken to take those dedicated idealogues on.
 

Calminian

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I was just watching Dobbs. Newt says Trump snookered the dems and actually got funding for the wall in the bill. He says they didn't read the fine print.

If true, kind of hilarious considering all the whining about the wall from people throwing their hands up. Looks like Trump also got some huge military spending and some huge border security spending.

If Trump says it's a good deal, all things considered, I tend to believe him. Politics is complicated. You can't alway get all you want when you want it, but you chip away.
 

Yeshua1

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Outside of the appointment of Neal Gorsuch, I can't think of significant things that Trump has done that Hillary wouldn't have done the same thing.

Bomb Syria? Yep.
Sign the budget resolution? Yep.
Withdraw from TPP? Probably.
Bombed Syria and isis, would not have been don by her!
 
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