Who Walks In The Light?

[Stegley]

I'll bite. Not sure of your point, but as a child of God, I literally have God with me at all times, in the form of the Holy Spirit. So yes, I am walking in the light as Jesus "is" currently, being with the Father. Can you physically see this light? No. It's a spiritual light, exactly as the light from the Father in heaven in a spiritual light. Not to be seen by imperfect, physical eyes. This seems to be the kind of answer you are looking for; a literal one.

Spiritually speaking, also yes. As a born again christian, I have had my eyes open to see the things of God, and therefore walk in the light. No longer in darkness, but having the light of God to reveal truth, as Jesus saw (and sees) truth.

I want to be sure I understand what you just said. You stated you have the light of God "as Jesus saw (and sees) truth."

Is that a completely correct statement about yourself and the Light?

 

[Sapper Woody]

I want to be sure I understand what you just said. You stated you have the light of God "as Jesus saw (and sees) truth."

Is that a completely correct statement about yourself and the Light?

The statement as I said it is totally correct. I have the light of God to reveal truth, as Jesus saw (and sees) truth. God provided the light to see truth. Do I always see it? No. But I am walking in the light and have the ability (given God's light) to see it.

But, just like we stub our toe physically, even in broad daylight, we can trip up while walking in this spiritual light. Just because you fail to see truth does not mean you didn't have the light (ability) to.

Edited to add: by "you" in my last statement, I didn't literally mean "you". I should have said "one". My apologies for any wrong message sent.

 

[Stegley]

Seriously starting to think the new guy is a troll

Woops. Resorting to ad hominem is not part of Agape.

Remember, there are posting rules and guidelines in here, given as if they superceed how Jesus responded responded to questions. I was hoping to find more than a shallowness propped up by modern church custom and yes-men. There is no need to be offended or fearful. Christ's Shield of Faith will guard your tenderest believances, will it not? And, if it does not, then those beliefs are not what God wishes to protect. Trim-trim.

Let's step away from your little tit-for-tat name calling. Tell us how you walk in the Light just "as" Jesus "is" in the light. Remember, Jesus does not need to be in the Light for forgiveness of any sin, so that means the sin question is not part of this Thread

Understand what I just shared? Speak kindly, now. Imitate Jesus' kindness, just "as" He "is" in the Light.

 

[Stegley]

The statement as I said it is totally correct. I have the light of God to reveal truth, as Jesus saw (and sees) truth. God provided the light to see truth. Do I always see it? No. But I am walking in the light and have the ability (given God's light) to see it.

But, just like we stub our toe physically, even in broad daylight, we can trip up while walking in this spiritual light. Just because you fail to see truth does not mean you didn't have the light (ability) to.

Edited to add: by "you" in my last statement, I didn't literally mean "you". I should have said "one". My apologies for any wrong message sent.

Perhaps it is now time for you to know that no Scripture speaks of Christ's Followers having an intermittant Light in them because of your theorized "toe stubbing." Scripture cannot be interpreted by means of your human experiences and errors.

It sure is a good thing you brought this up.

 

[Sapper Woody]

Perhaps it is now time for you to know that no Scripture speaks of Christ's Followers having an intermittant Light in them because of your theorized "toe stubbing." Scripture cannot be interpreted by means of your human experiences and errors.

It sure is a good thing you brought this up.

When I stub my toe in daylight, it's not because the daylight went away for a bit. It's because I didn't watch where I was going. I didn't use the light to check my path.

Same way with God's light showing me the truth. It's always there, and I'm always walking in it. I just have to use it to see the truth. There's nothing intermittent about the light. Only my use of it.

 

[Jacob_Elliott]

Woops. Resorting to ad hominem is not part of Agape.

Remember, there are posting rules and guidelines in here, given as if they superceed how Jesus responded responded to questions. I was hoping to find more than a shallowness propped up by modern church custom and yes-men. There is no need to be offended or fearful. Christ's Shield of Faith will guard your tenderest believances, will it not? And, if it does not, then those beliefs are not what God wishes to protect. Trim-trim.

Let's step away from your little tit-for-tat name calling. Tell us how you walk in the Light just "as" Jesus "is" in the light. Remember, Jesus does not need to be in the Light for forgiveness of any sin, so that means the sin question is not part of this Thread

Understand what I just shared? Speak kindly, now. Imitate Jesus' kindness, just "as" He "is" in the Light.

May God bless you!

 

[quantumfaith]

It depends on what your definition of the word "is" is.

 

[Stegley]

When I stub my toe in daylight, it's not because the daylight went away for a bit. It's because I didn't watch where I was going. I didn't use the light to check my path.

Same way with God's light showing me the truth. It's always there, and I'm always walking in it. I just have to use it to see the truth. There's nothing intermittent about the light. Only my use of it.

Fabricating and manipulating an analogy gives neither proof nor rationale for any Truth. I'm so sorry to have to inform you of this.

Are you walking in the Light right now?

 

[Don]

Fabricating and manipulating an analogy gives neither proof nor rationale for any Truth. I'm so sorry to have to inform you of this.

Are you walking in the Light right now?

Quaker, huh?

Okay, I'll bite: what does it mean to walk in the light?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

1John 1:7 (KJV), "If we walk in the light, as he [Jesus] is in the light, we have fellowship with one another."

Does anyone in here know of a person today who walks in The Light as Jesus is now in The Light? Anyone?

The clear context of the whole paragraph makes it clear we make choices every day.

1 John 1, NASB
5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;
7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.​

I think Oswald Chambers' writings, as compiled by his wife after his death in My Utmost for His Highest best illustrates the meaning of the passage.

The Holy Spirit applies or administers the work of the atonement to us in the deep unconscious realm as well as in the conscious realm. And it is not until we truly perceive the unrivaled power of the Spirit in us that we understand the meaning of 1 John 1:7 , which says, “. . . the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” This verse does not refer only to conscious sin, but also to the tremendously profound understanding of sin which only the Holy Spirit in me can accomplish.

I must “walk in the light as He is in the light . . .” — not in the light of my own conscience, but in God’s light. If I will walk there, with nothing held back or hidden, then this amazing truth is revealed to me: “. . . the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses [me] from all sin” so that God Almighty can see nothing to rebuke in me. On the conscious level it produces a keen, sorrowful knowledge of what sin really is. The love of God working in me causes me to hate, with the Holy Spirit’s hatred for sin, anything that is not in keeping with God’s holiness. To “walk in the light” means that everything that is of the darkness actually drives me closer to the center of the light.

What Chambers suggested is not possible 100% of the time. Being human, we falter, fail, and must be picked up, dusted off, and set on the path again by the Master. But our time in the Light can get more consistent, longer in duration between stumbles, and can encourage those around us. The most godly man on earth still sins. But his sinful behaviors are fewer and farther between as he learns to "walk in the Light" rather than stumble in the darkness.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

All true Christians walk in the light by God's Spirit.

5 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth

10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

Stegley is that church close to highway 212 ? Near Fred Meyers.....I deliver there tues morning.

:thumbs::thumbs:

 

[HankD]

I believe "walking in the light" qualifies for an over-simplification:

Light reveals. I believe it is a metaphor for walking according to the scriptures.

Psalm 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

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When we willfully sin we are walking in darkness.

1 John 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.​

When we are watching our path and seeking direction from God we are walking in the light and we will not stumble at the unforseen temptation.

1 John 2:10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.​

Psalm 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.


HankD​

 

[Scarlett O.]

Brother, this study has meant a lot to me this morning as I have intensely looked at this passage. This has been my Bible study for the morning and will be my meditation for the day.

I am walking in the Light. I know many, many Christians who are walking in the Light. Walking in the Light doesn't mean sinless perfection. It refers to perseverance and running the race and obedience to God. I'll show you.

The context of walking in the Light and the meaning of "walking" is very important.

1 John 1:5-10 - This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

Here's the progression that I see:

• God IS Light (φῶς - "phōs" = the brilliance and purity of spiritual truth and moral truth) - God possesses NO darkness (σκοτία - "skotia" = the ignorance of divine things and the association with wickedness and misery due to a want (lack) of the light)

• If we claim to fellowship (κοινωνία - "koinōnia" = an intimate participation and communion with) with God and yet we walk (περιπατέω - "peripateō" = to make one's way in life; to progress; to conduct one's self; to regulate one's life) in the darkness, then we are OBVIOUS liars.

• But on the contrary, if we "progress" and "conduct/regulate ourselves" IN "the brillliance and purity of God's divine moral truth", just as this is where God is then not only can we have this most intimate communion with each other, but Jesus Christ's blood will wash away all of our sin.

• We can't claim sinless perfection, but if we do confess the sins in our lives, we will be forgiven them and cleansed.
  

 

[Sapper Woody]

Fabricating and manipulating an analogy gives neither proof nor rationale for any Truth. I'm so sorry to have to inform you of this.

Are you walking in the Light right now?

That's where your wrong. It does give rationale. It's an understandable way to explain a truth. Second, I answered your question.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Remember, there are posting rules and guidelines in here, given as if they superceed how Jesus responded responded to questions.

Nice. 21 posts and he's already challenging the authority of BB administrators. >>click<<

 

[InTheLight]

I John 1:7 NKJV
But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

(Happens to be the verse of the day in You Bible.)

Since I have fellowship with other believers and since my sins have been forgiven I believe that, yes, I am walking in the light.

If you say I am not, then I know I will be in New Jerusalem.

Revelation 21:23-24 NKJV
The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light. And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.

 

[preacher4truth]

Wow, what a wonderful OP and thread. :laugh:

Schmedley, tell us, do you walk in the light as he is in the light?

 

[Iconoclast]

Stegley

1 John 1:7 very clearly specifies the issue is to be walking in the Light "as He [Jesus] is in the light," and not just in any old amount of light.

Do you walk as Jesus "is" in the Light, right now "as" He "is" in Heaven? If so, what corresponding aspects of your day to day walk would one observe?

Stegley,

The Apostle paul described this walking in the light in this way;
12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

We are translated out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light.

10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

At regeneration we are given a new heart which desires to obey the ten commandments as expressed fully in God's law/word.
Law keeping is a large part of our new identity as image bearers of God.

Jesus is the true express image of God.believers are predestined to be conformed to His image.This side of glorification no believer will be sinless as our bodies are not yet glorified.

We are responsible to perfectly keep God's law daily.Any want of conformity to the revealed law of God is sin.

14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God;:thumbs:
No one other than jesus walks sinless in this life.

Jesus is Jesus...we are not:thumbs:

 

[DHK]

Woops. Resorting to ad hominem is not part of Agape.

Remember, there are posting rules and guidelines in here, given as if they superceed how Jesus responded responded to questions. I was hoping to find more than a shallowness propped up by modern church custom and yes-men.

Responses like this indicate one is NOT walking in the light.

 

[Stegley]

May God bless you!

Yes. God marvelously continues to bless me, my family, and His Word as it operates.

Do you walk in the Light as Jesus "is" in the Light? Blessing other people through Godly imperative is wonderful, but the topic here centers upon whether or not anyone in this Forum knows someone who walks in in the Light as Jesus "is" in the light. Do you have an answer?