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Who Won The Debate? Reviews Go To Obama
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On balance, I'd give the debate to Obama. McCain won a few rounds, but Obama won a few more. Obama started off terribly. Stammering, a little disjointed, but he found his rhythm as he focused his attacks on McCain. He did seem almost petulant at times but not to the Al Gore level. McCain displayed decent thoughts but never articulated them well. He was not able to achieve enough substance points to overcome Obama's style points.
Both candidates played the "Me too game." McCain said he warned people, too, about the subprime mess. And then the most bizarre moment of the debate was when Obama claimed to "have a bracelet, too" when McCain recounted a story of a fallen soldier's mother giving him the bracelet of her slain son.
To sum up, both candidates said very little, but Obama did a better job.
One more time, I'll ask: Is this HONESTLY the best these parties can do? If not, why are they doing this? If so, one word: EEEK! :BangHead:
Both candidates played the "Me too game." McCain said he warned people, too, about the subprime mess. And then the most bizarre moment of the debate was when Obama claimed to "have a bracelet, too" when McCain recounted a story of a fallen soldier's mother giving him the bracelet of her slain son.
To sum up, both candidates said very little, but Obama did a better job.
One more time, I'll ask: Is this HONESTLY the best these parties can do? If not, why are they doing this? If so, one word: EEEK! :BangHead:
I am not sure this is coherent. I don't start with the assumption that you are dumb. Whatever my conclusion is, it is based on several years of interacting with you here. I don't think you are dumb. I think you are pretty wishy-washy, and not given to serious thinking. And I think sometimes you just play the devil's advocate. I don't think there is anyway you actually believe half of what you say here. But perhaps I am the dumb one.
But to the point, Obama has said some really dumb things about foreign policy. And some of the stuff McCain said is so painfully obvious that to deny it would have made him look dumber than he has already made himself look in some areas.
It is one thing to have a disagreement about what the prettiest shade of blue is. It is entirely different to disagree when someone says that 2+2=4. So when McCain said the foreign policy equivalent of 2+2=4, Obama had to agree or look totally stupid. The problem was that when it came to time argue for the prettiest shade of blue, Obama was missing the point altogether. It was as if he was talking about motor oil (which is to say that it was so clearly not a serious contribution it makes one wonder how he got the second most votes in the Democratic primary).
I am not sure he "never looked at him." I remember him looking at him a few times, and I just googled for pictures of the debate and saw a number of pictures with McCain looking at Obama. So your statement is factually incorrect.
But so what? He wasn't addressing him. He knows Obama won't vote for him. He was addressing the audience, and you generally look at the people you are talking to.
So it's wrong to tell the truth? Obama doesn't understand some basic things. Why is that bad to say?
Were you equally upset that Obama kept interrupting McCain and saying "You're wrong"? Somehow I doubt it. But that seems more rude to me than what McCain did. Your selective outrage is somewhat humorous.
But I agree with Tom. Is this really the best we can do? This is an abomination.
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