savedbymercy
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Works Salvation !
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why can't God Declare A sinner As Justified By Jesus Atonement?
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Works Salvation !
Works Salvation !
SAME message that BOTh jesus and paul taught!
Same message as misinterpreted by every denomination because every denomination wants to control Christianity. Whatever Jesus had in mind is probably beyond recovery until Jesus returns and takes control. Or maybe Jesus returned and didn't find anyone with true faith - as Jesus predicted/prophesied.
Same message as misinterpreted by every denomination because every denomination wants to control Christianity. Whatever Jesus had in mind is probably beyond recovery until Jesus returns and takes control. Or maybe Jesus returned and didn't find anyone with true faith - as Jesus predicted/prophesied.
jesus controls true Christianity!
that christianity will be the ones teaching the gospel of paul/John?peter etc!
savedbymercy
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Was raised again for our justification.
Was raised again for our justification.
Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
He was raised again for our Justification, meaning this, The Resurrection of Christ did rightly signify, that as our Surety and Head, when He died with our sins charged to Him, that He was actually Justified from all those sins of the Elect of God charged upon Him, and as the Head is declared Justified by His Resurrection from the dead, so is His Body, the Church. He rose from the dead not as a private person, but as the Shepherd of His Flock Heb 13:20
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Now if we preach not this Resurrection, we do Preach another Christ, for to say that none of the members of the Head Christ are not Justified before they believe, is like saying the Head of those members is not Justified before God until all His members believe, which is absurd and a attempt to overthrow the blessed significance of Christ's Resurrection, which also subverts His accomplishment by His Death !
A Person is declared Justified by Christ's Death without Faith, for the Resurrection declared everyone Christ died in behalf of Justified ! Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for[because of] our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our justification.
Then later on those who have been Justifed by His Blood, have it revealed to them by Faith Rom 5:1
Was raised again for our justification.
Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
He was raised again for our Justification, meaning this, The Resurrection of Christ did rightly signify, that as our Surety and Head, when He died with our sins charged to Him, that He was actually Justified from all those sins of the Elect of God charged upon Him, and as the Head is declared Justified by His Resurrection from the dead, so is His Body, the Church. He rose from the dead not as a private person, but as the Shepherd of His Flock Heb 13:20
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Now if we preach not this Resurrection, we do Preach another Christ, for to say that none of the members of the Head Christ are not Justified before they believe, is like saying the Head of those members is not Justified before God until all His members believe, which is absurd and a attempt to overthrow the blessed significance of Christ's Resurrection, which also subverts His accomplishment by His Death !
savedbymercy
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Justification from Eternity !
Where the man of sin ministers and followers greatly error, is they fail to understand the origin of ones Justification before God, in the Eternal Mind of God, for it is God that Justifieth Rom 8:33
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
And as it is God's act, it is immutable from Everlasting, founded upon the Covenant Engagements of the Person and Work of the Lord Jesus Christ, hence Justification from Eternity, because its origin is an act of God's Mind, which acts are Eternal and Immutable, not subject to change Mal 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
There is also a Justification at the Resurrection of Jesus Christ,m the Covenant head raised from the dead Rom 4:25, and this being more clearer revelation of the Immutability of His Eternal act of Justification, and then of course at the time of New birth, there is another revealing of God's Eternal act of Justification, in the conscience of the redeemed one, which this is Justification by Faith ! Rom 5:1; Rom 8:30
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Where the man of sin ministers and followers greatly error, is they fail to understand the origin of ones Justification before God, in the Eternal Mind of God, for it is God that Justifieth Rom 8:33
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
And as it is God's act, it is immutable from Everlasting, founded upon the Covenant Engagements of the Person and Work of the Lord Jesus Christ, hence Justification from Eternity, because its origin is an act of God's Mind, which acts are Eternal and Immutable, not subject to change Mal 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
There is also a Justification at the Resurrection of Jesus Christ,m the Covenant head raised from the dead Rom 4:25, and this being more clearer revelation of the Immutability of His Eternal act of Justification, and then of course at the time of New birth, there is another revealing of God's Eternal act of Justification, in the conscience of the redeemed one, which this is Justification by Faith ! Rom 5:1; Rom 8:30
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
OUR = all humans except those specifically named as reprobate in the Bible.
our means those who receive jesus as their Saviour PERIOD, all others are reprobate!
>jesus controls true Christianity!
By the way, which Christianity is the true Christianity?
Can a person "unreceive" Jesus?
the one that proclaims the true Gospel message that saves!
savedbymercy
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More on Rom 4:25
Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
When the Lord Jesus Christ was delivered up for the offences of all those given to Him in Election, and bore their sins in His Body on the Tree, He did meet all the Judicial demands of the law [ on their behalf ] and having satisfied, made propitiation to the Righteous Wrath of God, He was Raised from the Dead as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep Heb 13:20
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
They, the Sheep were raised up together with Him to Justification of Life Rom 5:18
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
And so He was raised again because of their Justification, and to deny this is to deny the Gospel !
Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
When the Lord Jesus Christ was delivered up for the offences of all those given to Him in Election, and bore their sins in His Body on the Tree, He did meet all the Judicial demands of the law [ on their behalf ] and having satisfied, made propitiation to the Righteous Wrath of God, He was Raised from the Dead as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep Heb 13:20
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
They, the Sheep were raised up together with Him to Justification of Life Rom 5:18
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
And so He was raised again because of their Justification, and to deny this is to deny the Gospel !
savedbymercy
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More on Rom 4:25 Justification of Life !
Rom 5:18
18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life
The Justification that the Resurrection of Jesus Christ gave witness to and evidence of in Rom 4:25
25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification.
And that is Justification of Life ! That is the effect that Christ's Death alone produces. It comes through one man's righteous act, Now to deny this is to deny the Gospel of free grace salvation.
And no, ,the all men here does not mean all men without exception, but the all men whom Christ had given to Him by the Father, or the Church of which He was the Head of !
Rom 5:18
18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life
The Justification that the Resurrection of Jesus Christ gave witness to and evidence of in Rom 4:25
25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification.
And that is Justification of Life ! That is the effect that Christ's Death alone produces. It comes through one man's righteous act, Now to deny this is to deny the Gospel of free grace salvation.
And no, ,the all men here does not mean all men without exception, but the all men whom Christ had given to Him by the Father, or the Church of which He was the Head of !
Rom 5:18
18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life
The Justification that the Resurrection of Jesus Christ gave witness to and evidence of in Rom 4:25
25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification.
And that is Justification of Life ! That is the effect that Christ's Death alone produces. It comes through one man's righteous act, Now to deny this is to deny the Gospel of free grace salvation.
And no, ,the all men here does not mean all men without exception, but the all men whom Christ had given to Him by the Father, or the Church of which He was the Head of !
And those would be the ones that confirmed their election by God by placing faith in jesus!
savedbymercy
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And those would be the ones that confirmed their election by God by placing faith in jesus!
Thats works salvation. And you have avoided the Truth of the post !
Rom 5:18
18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life
Thats works salvation. And you have avoided the Truth of the post !
Rom 5:18
18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life
the death of jesus is the basis of our justification before God, for without the shedding of the Blood, there is NO remission of sin!
savedbymercy
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the death of jesus is the basis of our justification before God, for without the shedding of the Blood, there is NO remission of sin!
Thats false teaching, The act of obedience by Christ results in Justification of life ! So you do lie !
Rom 5:18
18 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life
savedbymercy
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yesh
You are in essence denying that those Christ died for , that His Blood alone Justified them before God Rom 5:9
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Christ's Resurrection gave evidence that all for whom Christ died, God has Justified them Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification
You are anti Christ's Blood Justification alone before God !
the death of jesus is the basis of our justification before God, for without the shedding of the Blood, there is NO remission of sin!
You are in essence denying that those Christ died for , that His Blood alone Justified them before God Rom 5:9
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Christ's Resurrection gave evidence that all for whom Christ died, God has Justified them Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification
You are anti Christ's Blood Justification alone before God !
yesh
You are in essence denying that those Christ died for , that His Blood alone Justified them before God Rom 5:9
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Christ's Resurrection gave evidence that all for whom Christ died, God has Justified them Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification
You are anti Christ's Blood Justification alone before God !
Can a man be justified before God if NOT regenerated/saved yet?