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Why can't men believe this outrageous truth?

HankD

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Well, does it? It does mean all living humans, hence, world... Man chooses to be saved or not, as the Spirit draws.

Yes it means what it says. The world in totality.
The word "choose" is not used in the Gospel of John however.

The operative words are "come"/"believe".

Come to the light. Believe in the Son of God.

Every man which comes into the world is given enlightenment

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

A few/some/many come to the light​

John 3
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

HankD​
 

quantumfaith

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With regard to the point you made about individuals, we do.

Show me where I've ever made that argument. That is not at all how I would represent true scholarly Arminian theology.



Who were the people of that time who were willing and running after the law and thinking they were getting to heaven through their works? Israel. Paul was simply showing that it wasn't about those who strive after it, its about God who can show mercy to whosoever he pleases, even the dirty Gentile people, which is why Paul concluded the chapter with the summary statement: "What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; 31 but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. 32 Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the "stumbling stone."


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