Why do Arminians have such a small view of God?

We are talking about what God says regarding free will and Adam. What does God say. You have 66 books to look at. I suggest you start there.

 

Asking for evidence from God's word is stooping?

 

I'm waiting for you to show any scripture related to Adam having a free will. There is nothing pointless in reading scripture. God's word does not return void.

If truth were formed by great debate, Paul and the other Apostles would have been colossal failures. Instead they presented God's word as their reason for belief.

God's word is a stumbling block to some, foolishness to others and life to those who believe.

I call us to God's word because that is the objective truth. Our personal opinion is merely my word against yours. It is irrelevant.

Do you wish to share God's word or leave the conversation?

 

What does Romans 3 tell us about God?

Romans 3:7-28
[7]“But,” someone might still argue, “how can God condemn me as a sinner if my dishonesty highlights his truthfulness and brings him more glory?”
[8]And some people even slander us by claiming that we say, “The more we sin, the better it is!” Those who say such things deserve to be condemned.
[9]Well then, should we conclude that we Jews are better than others? No, not at all, for we have already shown that all people, whether Jews or Gentiles, are under the power of sin.
[10]As the Scriptures say, “No one is righteous— not even one.
[11]No one is truly wise; no one is seeking God.
[12]All have turned away; all have become useless. No one does good, not a single one.”
[13]“Their talk is foul, like the stench from an open grave. Their tongues are filled with lies.” “Snake venom drips from their lips.”
[14]“Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”
[15]“They rush to commit murder.
[16]Destruction and misery always follow them.
[17]They don’t know where to find peace.”
[18]“They have no fear of God at all.”
[19]Obviously, the law applies to those to whom it was given, for its purpose is to keep people from having excuses, and to show that the entire world is guilty before God.
[20]For no one can ever be made right with God by doing what the law commands. The law simply shows us how sinful we are.
[21]But now God has shown us a way to be made right with him without keeping the requirements of the law, as was promised in the writings of Moses and the prophets long ago.
[22]We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are.
[23]For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.
[24]Yet God freely and graciously declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins.
[25]For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past,
[26]for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he declares sinners to be right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.
[27]Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith.
[28]So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.

 

What does Ephesians 1 tell us about God?
Ephesians 1:3-14
[3]All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realms because we are united with Christ.
[4]Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes.
[5]God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.
[6]So we praise God for the glorious grace he has poured out on us who belong to his dear Son.
[7]He is so rich in kindness and grace that he purchased our freedom with the blood of his Son and forgave our sins.
[8]He has showered his kindness on us, along with all wisdom and understanding.
[9]God has now revealed to us his mysterious plan regarding Christ, a plan to fulfill his own good pleasure.
[10]And this is the plan: At the right time he will bring everything together under the authority of Christ—everything in heaven and on earth.
[11]Furthermore, because we are united with Christ, we have received an inheritance from God, for he chose us in advance, and he makes everything work out according to his plan.
[12]God’s purpose was that we Jews who were the first to trust in Christ would bring praise and glory to God.
[13]And now you Gentiles have also heard the truth, the Good News that God saves you. And when you believed in Christ, he identified you as his own by giving you the Holy Spirit, whom he promised long ago.
[14]The Spirit is God’s guarantee that he will give us the inheritance he promised and that he has purchased us to be his own people. He did this so we would praise and glorify him.

 

What does Ephesians 2 tell us about God?
Ephesians 2:1-10
[1]Once you were dead because of your disobedience and your many sins.
[2]You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world. He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God.
[3]All of us used to live that way, following the passionate desires and inclinations of our sinful nature. By our very nature we were subject to God’s anger, just like everyone else.
[4]But God is so rich in mercy, and he loved us so much,
[5]that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead. (It is only by God’s grace that you have been saved!)
[6]For he raised us from the dead along with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms because we are united with Christ Jesus.
[7]So God can point to us in all future ages as examples of the incredible wealth of his grace and kindness toward us, as shown in all he has done for us who are united with Christ Jesus.
[8]God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God.
[9]Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.
[10]For we are God’s masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago.

 

Let us look at God's word rather than speaking opinions that come from our own minds and have no basis in God's word.

 

What I admit is that God's will always is accomplished. Man never does something outside of the will of God. No puppetry needed by God to accomplish His will.
What I admit is that I do not know the mind of God nor do I give Him advice. I, like Job, must admit that God's ways are far above me. I must trust Him, even when I do not understand or conceive His plans.

I do not find free will spoken in God's word. I find God choosing. I find God predestinating. I find God adopting.

I trust God when he tells me these things.

It's not complicated to trust God.

 

I am curious how you exegete free will from these verses.

Genesis 2:16-17
[16]But the lord God warned him, “You may freely eat the fruit of every tree in the garden—
[17]except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. If you eat its fruit, you are sure to die.”

 

It's a circle because you ignore what is said and refuse to look at God's word. I cannot force you out of your narrow mind.

 

Is warning and offering the same thing?

 

You have not spoken to the passages I provided to you. What do those passages say about God?

 

No one argues that humans are unfree to act. What is stated is that those actions are ordained by the Providence of God.

God is not unaware or uninvolved when anything occurs within His creation. There are no accidents. No "oops." No surprise regarding anything. All things within God's creation are upheld by His righteous right hand. This includes what you or I would label good and evil.
It is precisely this issue that Job addresses with His wife when she tells him to curse God and die. Job's response is, should we praise God for good and not for evil? Job understood the Providential actions of God.