Why do Far Right "Christians" Love War and Guns

[windcatcher]

I don't understand how Bible believing Christians who are so adament against abortion support war and guns. It's all the same thing. A life is a life.

While you're trying to figure your way out of your problem.... I've one to present to you.....

I don't understand how some who call themselves Bible believing Christians are so angry against the brethren who oppose sin and abortion, support the country's defense placing their lives between us and the enemy, and provide and protect their familys? Why would a Christian judge another without a fault..... or invent faults?

Tell me please, how is it that a person would represent themself as a Bible believing Christian would oppose someone who follows the laws of the land.... and once enlisted in the military, obeys the Commander in Chief, as unto the Lord in their honorable performance? Doesn't the Bible teach that no man should judge another's servant.... so if the person is Christ's then the judgement belongs to Christ... and if one is a soldier.... the judgement belongs to the king..... so why would one Christian judge another while in service?

I can understand how some because of conscience or fear or unwillingness to make the sacrifice of deployment which also involves their families, might choose to not join the military.
But I can't understand how one Christian will judge another in regard to lawful and honorable service. Why do some do that?

Why do some who call themselves Bible believing Christians pick and choose what they want to believe and then judge their brothers...... They oppose capital punishment for the guilty who had their opportunity.... but justify abortion or murder of the innocent? Why do they judge the laws of God...... and think they can improve upon them? Why don't they see the contradiction of their own opinions.... ?

Why do some who call themselves Bible believing Christians judge the soldiers who go to war and their families and friends who pray for them and support them... when it is governments who make the decision to battle and the Christian soldier is duty bound to follow orders as long as they are bound to the military? Why do some who call themselves Bible believing Christians spend more time judging and trying to persuade others that they have the only right position..... when the Bible says the hearts of kings are in the hands of God to turn where He wills?

How is it that some who call themselves Bible believing Christians talk so big about loving the enemy and turning the other cheek..... but talk so little about compassion and possibly ministry for the lost..... and present no evidence of faith that God may present opportunities for Christian witness and compassion through those soldiers who are Christian and present on the battle fields or working with the local society to help restore it to normalacy and peace?

How is it that some who call themselves Bible believing Christians, seem so lacking in faith..... they, by their actions, are judging God who allows evil to happen,..... and all innocents caught up in it? If they prayed with as much fervancy as they post.... we just might have a different world....... unless there is something needful but lacking in those who call themselves Bible believing Christians?

Without humility, who can approach God?

Could it be that some who call them Bible believing Christians are having difficulty in some area which makes this profession true? STudy to show yourself approved unto God which is your reasonable service....

Also...... for by this shall all men know you are my disciples, if you have love one to another.

 

[Palatka51]

While you're trying to figure your way out of your problem.... I've one to present to you.....

I don't understand how some who call themselves Bible believing Christians are so angry against the brethren who oppose sin and abortion, support the country's defense placing their lives between us and the enemy, and provide and protect their familys? Why would a Christian judge another without a fault..... or invent faults?

Tell me please, how is it that a person would represent themself as a Bible believing Christian would oppose someone who follows the laws of the land.... and once enlisted in the military, obeys the Commander in Chief, as unto the Lord in their honorable performance? Doesn't the Bible teach that no man should judge another's servant.... so if the person is Christ's then the judgement belongs to Christ... and if one is a soldier.... the judgement belongs to the king..... so why would one Christian judge another while in service?

I can understand how some because of conscience or fear or unwillingness to make the sacrifice of deployment which also involves their families, might choose to not join the military.
But I can't understand how one Christian will judge another in regard to lawful and honorable service. Why do some do that?

Why do some who call themselves Bible believing Christians pick and choose what they want to believe and then judge their brothers...... They oppose capital punishment for the guilty who had their opportunity.... but justify abortion or murder of the innocent? Why do they judge the laws of God...... and think they can improve upon them? Why don't they see the contradiction of their own opinions.... ?

Why do some who call themselves Bible believing Christians judge the soldiers who go to war and their families and friends who pray for them and support them... when it is governments who make the decision to battle and the Christian soldier is duty bound to follow orders as long as they are bound to the military? Why do some who call themselves Bible believing Christians spend more time judging and trying to persuade others that they have the only right position..... when the Bible says the hearts of kings are in the hands of God to turn where He wills?

How is it that some who call themselves Bible believing Christians talk so big about loving the enemy and turning the other cheek..... but talk so little about compassion and possibly ministry for the lost..... and present no evidence of faith that God may present opportunities for Christian witness and compassion through those soldiers who are Christian and present on the battle fields or working with the local society to help restore it to normalacy and peace?

How is it that some who call themselves Bible believing Christians, seem so lacking in faith..... they, by their actions, are judging God who allows evil to happen,..... and all innocents caught up in it? If they prayed with as much fervancy as they post.... we just might have a different world....... unless there is something needful but lacking in those who call themselves Bible believing Christians?

Without humility, who can approach God?

Could it be that some who call them Bible believing Christians are having difficulty in some area which makes this profession true? STudy to show yourself approved unto God which is your reasonable service....

Also...... for by this shall all men know you are my disciples, if you have love one to another.

Amen, brother amen.

 

[blackbird]

Just curious... if you were provided with transportation, moving costs, housing accomodations and the employment of your choice... what country would be the haven of your desire?

Well---------since you asked-------I will answer for myself

I'm not going anywhere---------My "temporary" home is in Alabama----I'm not driving the tent pegs in too deep on this side of Heaven, though---Heaven being my permanent home

But if I had a choice-----------it would be a little place called Ogmore-by-Sea, Wales. Another place is a little villiage in Wales called Bala-----Yes, I would be happy there if it were not for being happy here in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave!!!!

 

[JustChristian]

Abortion is murder.

Killing someone in self-defense is not murder.

Murder as defined by Merriam-Webster is the "crime of unlawfully killing a person..."

Capital punishment is lawful, therefore not murder, same goes for war. To take war a step further the Genvena Convention says that a prisoner must be protected. So killing a prisoner (unless he is attempting escape) would be murder.

JustC, All murder is killing, but all killing is NOT murder.

As a career solider, I do not relish war, but I was prepared to go, if I had to.

Whose law are you referring to, man's or Jesus'?

 

[OldRegular]

Whose law are you referring to, man's or Jesus'?

JC. When you repent of your vote for O'bama rex who supports the slaughter of unborn or just born children and acknowledge such on this forum perhaps people will take your posts serious again.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Whose law are you referring to, man's or Jesus'?

I cannot believe you haven't been banned yet. Why do you ask a question that has been answered several times, in this thread ? It seems you are here just simply to waste people's time.

 

[blackbird]

Whose law are you referring to, man's or Jesus'?

We must obey God but what did God say about obeying man's law???

 

[Martin Luther]

Just curious... if you were provided with transportation, moving costs, housing accomodations and the employment of your choice... what country would be the haven of your desire?

New Zealand

 

[targus]

New Zealand

And what is it that you think that you will escaping here in the US that does not exist in New Zealand?

 

[Martin Luther]

And what is it that you think that you will escaping here in the US that does not exist in New Zealand?

The US is being used as a means to bring about one world order, there are no real freedoms here. Once the world is intentionally plunged into a global depression via the USA then life will be nearly impossible here. Life here exists due to too many things that are not sustainable. Things like cheap gasoline, cars, fast food, employment based on services, grocery stores packed with readymade meals, natural gas to heat and cook, and electricity available cheaply. It would be much easier to make it through this time if you were remote, isolated and self-sustained. America will be jam packed with desperate unprepared people willing to murder you for no reason.

 

[targus]

The US is being used as a means to bring about one world order, there are no real freedoms here. Once the world is intentionally plunged into a global depression via the USA then life will be nearly impossible here. Life here exists due to too many things that are not sustainable. Things like cheap gasoline, cars, fast food, employment based on services, grocery stores packed with readymade meals, natural gas to heat and cook, and electricity available cheaply. It would be much easier to make it through this time if you were remote, isolated and self-sustained. America will be jam packed with desperate unprepared people willing to murder you for no reason.

What makes you think that New Zealand is any different than what you have described?

 

[Martin Luther]

What makes you think that New Zealand is any different than what you have described?

The people per square mile is favorable, they are heavily agricultural, isolated on a global scale, and yet they still maintain a high standard of living.

 

[rbell]

Good post, this wicked country was founded on rebellion. There is nothing Christian about this satanic country. Guns don't keep us free, God does. He gives freedoms to those who obey Him. America is nothing more than a tool being used to bring about the one world order. We have freedoms because Satan needs more ignorant Christians to die in useless wars. Once the noose is firmly around our neck it will be lights out.

What a monumentally stupid line of thought, with the exception of that "God keeps us free."

Otherwise...like I said.

 

[LadyEagle]

America will be jam packed with desperate unprepared people willing to murder you for no reason.

Well that's true and a lot of people realize this. That's why guns and ammo sales have increased in the last couple of months.

Some people on this board can't seem to understand that and/or are willing to not defend their homes and let their wives and children be raped and murdered because they can't seem to understand the Biblical difference between murder of the innocent and killing in self defense, etc. When food shortage comes, no one will be safe any longer, because there will not be enough law enforcement to hold back the tide of crime. It will be a revolution/civil war.

Some people on this board do not have a clear understanding of what the Bible teaches, but the differences between justice, self defense, and outright murder are clearly outlined in the Bible for those who SERIOUSLY want to know what God's Word says.

 

[rbell]

The O.T. was an allegory...

err....no.


BTW...you're going to be upset no matter where you go. That is for sure.

If you're convinced that America is the armpit of the world...you'll be surprised what anatomical assignment you give everyone else, after you honestly view the alternatives.

But keep pontificating, if it makes you feel better.

 

[targus]

The people per square mile is favorable, they are heavily agricultural, isolated on a global scale, and yet they still maintain a high standard of living.

I don't know. I that they may be isolated in terms of miles from other countries, but the general population is currently distressed over Asian immigration rates into their country. Dicrimination against the Morai people is a big problem.

If you eliminate cars, gasoline, heating fuel, fast food and so on, I am not so sure that the standard of living would be all that high.

As far as agriculture and population per square mile you may want to factor in the topography.

Of course it seems to me that your biggest complaint is people and no matter what country you would move to you are going to find people. As is the case with alcoholism a geographic change isn't the solution to your problems.

 

[matt wade]

Here's another question, "Why do people live in a paranoid world where they believe that our entire government is going to collapse, that there will be mass food shortage, and our country will be full of anarchy?"

Sorry, paranoid people, it ain't going to happen!

 

[Thinkingstuff]

I don't understand how Bible believing Christians who are so adament against abortion support war and guns. It's all the same thing. A life is a life.

Its a wrong premise. "far right christians" adhere to two political principles Protection of life and the protection of liberty. Life and liberty are believed to be naturally God given. Both are constantly attacked. Both are interconnected. For millenia Tyrants have attacked liberty and would enslave all men Ie Pharoh, Caesar, Czar, King, Facist Leaders, Communist Leaders, Business leaders etc... to the current day. One thing History teaches us is if we do nothing to protect Life or liberty we lose both. And sometimes the only way to protect both is by the equal force that attacks either. I would suggest if neither are attacked there is no need for defense of equal measure. However, this is not the case life and liberty are constantly beseiged by more violent people every day. So defence is necissary. Would you suggest not fighting against the Muslims when the day comes that they attack our citizens? We live in a world that the culture is death. We have a culture of life but must defend it lest we all die. Or become enslaved.

 

[poncho]

Well that's true and a lot of people realize this. That's why guns and ammo sales have increased in the last couple of months.

Some people on this board can't seem to understand that and/or are willing to not defend their homes and let their wives and children be raped and murdered because they can't seem to understand the Biblical difference between murder of the innocent and killing in self defense, etc. When food shortage comes, no one will be safe any longer, because there will not be enough law enforcement to hold back the tide of crime. It will be a revolution/civil war.

Some people on this board do not have a clear understanding of what the Bible teaches, but the differences between justice, self defense, and outright murder are clearly outlined in the Bible for those who SERIOUSLY want to know what God's Word says.

Good example would be New Orleans after Katrina. If you are counting on the authorities to keep you safe forget it. They just made it worse and took guns away from law abiding citizens trying to protect themselves and their property.


I was out in Franklin couple weeks ago to visit the locol gun shop there. It was packed! And when I say packed I mean standing room only. I went there because the gun show in M-boro was packed and I didn't want to stand in the long line to get in.

One thing that I noticed in both places was the large number of women buying guns, ammo and concealment rigs. Apparently they aren't convinced the authorities are able to keep them safe from harm either.

Bully for them I say. Just ah save me a couple boxes of 12 gauge 00 buckshot will ya ladies?

 

[faithgirl46]

I have no problem with people using guns to hunt with or to protect themselves from somebody beeaking into their homes. That is not wrong. However it is wrong to just shoot somebody with out any regard to their well being. I think that the killing of unborn babies is wrong.
Faithgirl