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Why do Far Right "Christians" Love War and Guns

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faithgirl46

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matt wade said:
Here's another question, "Why do people live in a paranoid world where they believe that our entire government is going to collapse, that there will be mass food shortage, and our country will be full of anarchy?"

Sorry, paranoid people, it ain't going to happen!
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I disagree with you Matt. It can and probably will happen.
 
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windcatcher

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Thinkingstuff said:
Its a wrong premise. "far right christians" adhere to two political principles Protection of life and the protection of liberty. Life and liberty are believed to be naturally God given. Both are constantly attacked. Both are interconnected. For millenia Tyrants have attacked liberty and would enslave all men Ie Pharoh, Caesar, Czar, King, Facist Leaders, Communist Leaders, Business leaders etc... to the current day. One thing History teaches us is if we do nothing to protect Life or liberty we lose both. And sometimes the only way to protect both is by the equal force that attacks either. I would suggest if neither are attacked there is no need for defense of equal measure. However, this is not the case life and liberty are constantly beseiged by more violent people every day. So defence is necissary. Would you suggest not fighting against the Muslims when the day comes that they attack our citizens? We live in a world that the culture is death. We have a culture of life but must defend it lest we all die. Or become enslaved.
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The writer of the OP doesn't know his Bible.
The way JC worded his question.... he lumps people together in groups and labels. There are certain situations where we are to judge and certain situation where judging is wrong........ but his judging a co-mingling of groups together is wrong. Also he has presented nothing to support his charges against Bible believing Christians. But whether the monitors on this board agree or not... his statement is a charge against Bible believing Christians.
 
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Martin Luther

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matt wade said:
Here's another question, "Why do people live in a paranoid world where they believe that our entire government is going to collapse, that there will be mass food shortage, and our country will be full of anarchy?"

Sorry, paranoid people, it ain't going to happen!
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It is mathematically impossible for the country to continue. Maybe you should read up on what happens to countries which use fiat currencies. Saying things might get better is like saying a 70 year old man might be younger in a few more years, it can't happen. We are doomed.
 
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matt wade

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Martin Luther said:
It is mathematically impossible for the country to continue. Maybe you should read up on what happens to countries which use fiat currencies. Saying things might get better is like saying a 70 year old man might be younger in a few more years, it can't happen. We are doomed.
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I'm not saying things might get better. I'm saying they will. We aren't even close to a point that our government is going to collapse and anarchy will take over. Anyone who thinks that we are is delusional.
 
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matt wade

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Martin Luther said:
Behold the power of positive thinking.
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Sorry...I thought I was debating with a like minded brother. I just realized that you belive that salvation is not through faith alone (quote from your profile, 'that obedience to Christ is necessary for salvation.'). Have fun in New Zealand... :rolleyes:
 
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matt wade said:
Sorry...I thought I was debating with a like minded brother. I just realized that you belive that salvation is not through faith alone (quote from your profile, 'that obedience to Christ is necessary for salvation.'). Have fun in New Zealand... :rolleyes:
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You mean have fun in MiddleEarth :laugh:
 
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Martin Luther

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matt wade said:
Sorry...I thought I was debating with a like minded brother. I just realized that you belive that salvation is not through faith alone (quote from your profile, 'that obedience to Christ is necessary for salvation.'). Have fun in New Zealand... :rolleyes:
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Good luck with that.


James 2:15-26 (King James Version)

15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

25Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 
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OldRegular

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Thinkingstuff said:
Its a wrong premise. "far right christians" adhere to two political principles Protection of life and the protection of liberty. Life and liberty are believed to be naturally God given. Both are constantly attacked. Both are interconnected. For millenia Tyrants have attacked liberty and would enslave all men Ie Pharoh, Caesar, Czar, King, Facist Leaders, Communist Leaders, Business leaders etc... to the current day. One thing History teaches us is if we do nothing to protect Life or liberty we lose both. And sometimes the only way to protect both is by the equal force that attacks either. I would suggest if neither are attacked there is no need for defense of equal measure. However, this is not the case life and liberty are constantly beseiged by more violent people every day. So defence is necissary. Would you suggest not fighting against the Muslims when the day comes that they attack our citizens? We live in a world that the culture is death. We have a culture of life but must defend it lest we all die. Or become enslaved.
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May I compliment you on a very insightful and fair minded post!:thumbs:
 
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JustChristian said:
I don't understand how Bible believing Christians who are so adament against abortion support war and guns. It's all the same thing. A life is a life.
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Since you're asking questions...

A companion question would be "How can real Bible believing Christians openly support the killing of the innocent and somehow think they can approach God with their sinful hearts still carrying the bloodstains of dead babies"?
 
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