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"Why do you KJV only people attack the word of God?"

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EdSutton

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Hey! I got it!!!

This question has been asked before (and completely ignored, as to giving an answer) but I will ask it one last time.

Where does Scripture ever promise to give us "an inerrant Bible" in one volume?

In fact, where does the Scripture ever promise or claim any single volume of the Scriptures?

Anywhere???????

I just did some quick checking and now ask, where is the word "Bible" even found in the Scriptures, when translated into English?

Incidentally, one can easily find this out on the Bible gateway site, and I will help you out.

Out of 20 English translations found there, exactly one even uses the word "Bible" anywhere (13 times in 10 verses) in the text, so I guess that must be the one version several of you are referring to when making that claim.

That version happens to be the Message (MSG), so I guess we actually must have several clandestine supporters of that version on the BB.

Boy, was I ever surprised to find that one out!!
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Now, having already wasted more than enough time on this pointless and redundant thread, -

"I'm outta' here!"

Ed
 
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DHK

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Will J. Kinney said:
Yes DHK, I am stupid enough to think that when somebody talks about "the Bible" as their final authority for faith and practice, that they are actually talking about something that is REAL. Forgive me this wrong.

Maybe I should have gone to seminary so I could have come out and been able to understand your secret language codes.

"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:15

Will K
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Why is it that thousands of believers before your time, and even now during your time (who do not believe as you do) believe this statement:
I believe that the Bible is the final authority in all matters of faith and doctrine.
they don't have any problem understanding what "Bible" means? Only you do? Why? You have changed the meaning of "Bible" to make it mean something other than it means. What does the word "Bible" mean in the NT, OT, in Hindi, Punjabi, Cree, Maori, Spanish, etc. What does it mean? Does it mean KJV? Is that what Paul used. Did Paul use the KJV, Will? Did he?
 
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DHK

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Will J. Kinney said:
Maybe I should have gone to seminary so I could have come out and been able to understand your secret language codes.

"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:15

Will K
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Speaking of codes, your signature line reads:

"Is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?" - Zechariah 3:2
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You are "Brandplucked" are you not?
 
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tinytim

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Harold Garvey said:
you keep up with some pretty meaningless stuff.

is it your attitude to permanantly ban people from BB, your church, your life?

"years ago"?
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The point I was making, Harold, is that when we signed up for this board we agreed to a set of rules.. We must be held accountable to this agreement. I remember Brandplucked AKA Will Kinney from yrs ago.. like 2003-2005. And the reason I remembered him was because I used to debate in the versions section, and his verbal attacks on anyone that disagreed with him was awful.

In the rules we agreed too, we are not allowed to have 2 accounts.. or if we get banned we are not allowed to come back under a different name.

And someone intentionally breaking rules to post here has no credibility to discuss the Word of God.

Also, here is an article that Will wrote and a section is about me...
http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/NotKJB.html Notice his name, brandplucked in the URL

Here is what he wrote about me...

Brother Scott, over at the Baptist Board answers: "I think that we are still on a quest to find not only the original words that were written in the autographs, but as our language and scholarship changes, so does our ability to effectively translate those manuscripts." When I asked this same question, a Christian who calls himself Tinytim answers with uncharacteristic honesty: "No one has a complete infallible bible, God has seen fit to destroy the originals. If you have a problem with that talk to Him. We do have reliable english translations that give us God's message to humankind, but to say that they are inspired, infallible, or inerrant is a lie. They are merely a translation. God preserved his words in the varying manuscripts. That's why I carry a parallel Bible. There is so much pride in the KJVO beliefs that it is sinful."
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This was written at least 4 yrs ago.. .
At least he said I was honest...
 
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Will J. Kinney

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No code. Just a REAL Bible

DHK said:
Speaking of codes, your signature line reads:


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"Is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?" - Zechariah 3:2

You are "Brandplucked" are you not?
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Yep, one and the same. It comes from a the REAL paper and ink Bible.

Will K

The admission of being a banned member is a banning offence - done and done.
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Will J. Kinney

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God's 100% true Holy Bible

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Originally Posted by Will J. Kinney
There are two sides and two sides only. The Bible believers or the Bible agnostics.


Mexdeaf said:
In that case you are the agnostic. You claim that for hundreds of years NO ONE had a Bible- and that most people today don't have one. What an arrogant position.
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Nothing arrogant about it. The truth of it was revealed by the sovereign grace of God. Not because I'm smarter or holier or more righteous than anybody else. True faith is a gift of God. It is not produced by the flesh of man.

Most people today when pressed against the wall to admit what they REALLY believe about "The Bible" do not believe a REAL paper and ink Bible that you can hold in your hands and believe every word as the inspired and 100% infallible words of God exists.

Could you hand a REAL Bible to anyone of the type DHK is promoting? You know, those non-existent originals he's always talking about. He flat out said that No translation is perfect or infallible. Why don't you pick on his imaginary bible views instead of mine?

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Will J. Kinney

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tinytim said:
The point I was making, Harold, is that when we signed up for this board we agreed to a set of rules.. We must be held accountable to this agreement. I remember Brandplucked AKA Will Kinney from yrs ago.. like 2003-2005. And the reason I remembered him was because I used to debate in the versions section, and his verbal attacks on anyone that disagreed with him was awful.

In the rules we agreed too, we are not allowed to have 2 accounts.. or if we get banned we are not allowed to come back under a different name.

And someone intentionally breaking rules to post here has no credibility to discuss the Word of God.

Also, here is an article that Will wrote and a section is about me...
http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/NotKJB.html Notice his name, brandplucked in the URL

Here is what he wrote about me...

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Brother Scott, over at the Baptist Board answers: "I think that we are still on a quest to find not only the original words that were written in the autographs, but as our language and scholarship changes, so does our ability to effectively translate those manuscripts." When I asked this same question, a Christian who calls himself Tinytim answers with uncharacteristic honesty: "No one has a complete infallible bible, God has seen fit to destroy the originals. If you have a problem with that talk to Him. We do have reliable english translations that give us God's message to humankind, but to say that they are inspired, infallible, or inerrant is a lie. They are merely a translation. God preserved his words in the varying manuscripts. That's why I carry a parallel Bible. There is so much pride in the KJVO beliefs that it is sinful."


This was written at least 4 yrs ago.. .
At least he said I was honest...
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Yes, I did. I think you are honestly wrong, but what is it you seem so upset about. My being a member of this forum or the fact that you have openly admitted that you do not believe such a thing as a complete, inspired and infallible Bible exists in any language?

You just proved by your own words that you do not have nor believe in an inerrant Bible, just as I have been pointing out all along. That is the position now held by the majority of Christians. You just confirmed my argument.

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DHK

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Will J. Kinney said:
You just proved by your own words that you do not have nor believe in an inerrant Bible, just as I have been pointing out all along. That is the position now held by the majority of Christians. You just confirmed my argument.

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No he proved my assertion: you have redefined the term "Bible" to fit your paradigm, in order that you can cowardly lash out at others and hide behind a falsely conceived and illogical doctrine which many call a cult.

What Tiny calls a Bible, you don't. You have redefined a Bible within the narrow scope of KJV leaving more than 99% of the world without a Bible, a point which Mexdeaf keeps pointing out to you, and you keep ignoring. You have no answer for your dilemnas except to mock, call names "Bible agnostics," and speak derisively of others. That is your form of debate when you can't give an intelligent answer.
 
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Will J. Kinney

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DHK's invisible Bible

DHK said:
No he proved my assertion: you have redefined the term "Bible" to fit your paradigm, in order that you can cowardly lash out at others and hide behind a falsely conceived and illogical doctrine which many call a cult.

What Tiny calls a Bible, you don't. You have redefined a Bible within the narrow scope of KJV leaving more than 99% of the world without a Bible, a point which Mexdeaf keeps pointing out to you, and you keep ignoring. You have no answer for your dilemnas except to mock, call names "Bible agnostics," and speak derisively of others. That is your form of debate when you can't give an intelligent answer.
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Oh, now I see what you been trying to tell me all this time. Your " Bible " is not really a book or object that exists in this world and somebody can actually see, touch or hold in their hands. Your "the Bible" is a far superior thing than something so common as that. Your "Bible" is actually pure space thought and a cosmic consciousness type of thingy.

Yes, now that is a whole lot more intelligent than my stupid idea of an actual book. Thanks, DHK, your irrefutable arguments and sound reasonings have finally brought me out of my past mental darkness and into a new and dazzling light of full understanding - Not.

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saturneptune

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Will J. Kinney said:
Oh, now I see what you been trying to tell me all this time. Your " Bible " is not really a book or object that exists in this world and somebody can actually see, touch or hold in their hands. Your "the Bible" is a far superior thing than something so common as that. Your "Bible" is actually pure space thought and a cosmic consciousness type of thingy.

Yes, now that is a whole lot more intelligent than my stupid idea of an actual book. Thanks, DHK, your irrefutable arguments and sound reasonings have finally brought me out of my past mental darkness and into a new and dazzling light of full understanding - Not.

Will K
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Bud, I think you have finally snapped.
 
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Will J. Kinney

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Where exactly is this "hostility" you speak of?

Bubba said:
IMHO I think that this thread should be closed due to the hostil nature of the posts.
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Where exactly is this "hostility" you speak of? Can you give some specific examples? The exchanges get a little lively and a tad heated, but so far I fail to see the hostility.

The moderators are free of course to close it down if they wish, but just because people have disagreements and different beliefs and points of view does not always mean there is hostility.

Maybe women have a general tendency to see any form of disagreement as hostility but most men do not. Is Christianity becoming feminized? Probably a good case could be made that it is.

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Amy.G

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Will J. Kinney said:
Maybe women have a general tendency to see any form of disagreement as hostility but most men do not. Is Christianity becoming feminized? Probably a good case could be made that it is.

Will K
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What????? Where is this coming from? As far as I know, I'm the only woman to comment on these recent threads. I haven't accused anyone of hostility and I have no idea what your statement about Christianity becoming feminized has to do with Bible translations. I don't even know what that means.
 
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