Why does bush warmonger when even his own blood does not believe

[LadyEagle]

George Bush is pretty much of the past. He will pay a heavy price for his miscalcuations in Iraq. Again, this does not help solve the problem.

What heavy price will George Bush pay for his miscalculations in Iraq? When he leaves office, he and his cronies will be richer than ever, having made millions from their stock in companies with defense contracts and oil companies.

 

[Petra-O IX]

Was Adolph Hitler a direct threat to the United States? Why didnt we just take care of Japan and let it go at that?

Hitler was going around attacking other nations , Saddam was not. In fact Saddam was nicely contained and could have easily been taken care of at a later date. Despite the best advice from the military Bush wanted to play John Wayne, and thanks to his poor planning we are stuck in a big ugly mess. we have not been greeted as liberators and we may never win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people but we have done all that can be reasonably been done.

 

[saturneptune]

What heavy price will George Bush pay for his miscalculations in Iraq? When he leaves office, he and his cronies will be richer than ever, having made millions from their stock in companies with defense contracts and oil companies.

The fact that the democrats won the Congress in 2006 and his Presidency is for all practical purposes over cut from 8 to 6 years is a heavy price.

The fact that the democrats have a much better than even chance of winning the Presidency next year due to his judgements is a heavy price.

The fact that history will call it a failed Presidency is a heavy price.

As far as what they do to enrich themselves after leaving office, there is not much different in what they are doing in office. Both democrats and republicans are interested in power and money, not the American people. How many times does this have to be said?

God will deal with, and IMHO, quite severely, those who have pandered to the Christian vote on false pretenses, and enriched themselves on the back of the American people. They are all that way. Cheney is probably the worst, but they are only seperated by small shades of gray, and that includes the democrats.

Hope that answers your question.

Again, the point I was making was, slamming Bush for all his past mistakes is not going to help us solve the Iraq problem.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I'd almost like to try Cheney's brand of conservatism, as opposed to this compassionate drivel we're being force-fed.

 

[Joshua Rhodes]

AP - If someone or even a large group of people in your family chose not to serve, what would that say about you?

Nothing.

It would say that a large portion of your family chose not to serve.

 

[saturneptune]

AP - If someone or even a large group of people in your family chose not to serve, what would that say about you?

Nothing.

It would say that a large portion of your family chose not to serve.

I agree with that. Since the WW2 generation, I think I am the only one in my family that served during the Vietnam era.

 

[ASLANSPAL]

Joshua you missed it!

It is not about me it is about those who trumped up this war and hyped it yet are not even willing to make a shared sacrifice.

Should bush and family members who support this war ..be apart of the shared sacrifice..yes or no...it is obvious they are not doing it now.


your private e-mail is not working ..but keep on topic thanks.

 

[Petra-O IX]

AP - If someone or even a large group of people in your family chose not to serve, what would that say about you?

Nothing.

It would say that a large portion of your family chose not to serve.

Joshua, The thing that bothers me about Bush's family serving or not serving ( and it really isn't important that they chose not to) is that Bush practally slapped every American that disagreed with his policies on Iraq in the face when he stated "Either you are with us or against us". I am sure the sacrifices that our brave men in uniform have made since then have not gone un-noticed by the Bush administration but the lack of commitemnt from Bushs' nephews to join the military just shows lack of any real unison from the family . This is the core, if family support is lacking what does that say about the Presidents' leadership qualities. Sadly, time has revealed that Bush is lacking in that department. All he can give us is lip service.

 

[StraightAndNarrow]

Current U.S. population: 301,256,099
http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

Military-eligible population: 109,305,756

Total U.S. Armed Services personnel: 2,685,713
Active U.S. Armed Services personnel: 1,426,713
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_United_States

0.89% of the U.S. population, or about 1 of every 112 people, serves is some branch of the military.

0.47% of the U.S. population, or about 1 of every 211 people, is in active service.

These figures increase for the military-eligible population.

2.46% of the military-eligible U.S. population, or about 1 of every 41 people in this category, serves in some branch of the military.

1.31% of the military-eligible U.S. population, or about 1 of every 77 people in this category, is in active service.

How many people in that photograph are even eligible for military service?

There are maybe 75-80 people in the photo, so it should not be unexpected that no one pictured is either currently in the reserves or the active military.

This is not a good argument to use for the Bushes being unpatriotic and/or cowards.

The vast majority of people in the U.S. have not and will not serve in the military, provided that the current percentages are maintained and a draft is not enforced.

The maximum age for military service raised by Bush to:

* Active duty Army - 42
* Army Reserves - 42
* Army Natinal Guard - 42
* Active duty Air Force - 27
* Air Force Reserve - 34
* Air National guard - 34
* Active duty Navy - 34
* Navy Reserves - 39
* Active duty Marines - 28
* Marine Corps Reserves - 29
* Active duty Coast Guard - 27
* Coast Guard Reserves - 27

Why are you claiming that Bush's family members aren't qualified to enlist? Couldn't pass the mental tests?

 

[Joshua Rhodes]

Yep, AP, I got it.

It is not about me it is about those who trumped up this war and hyped it yet are not even willing to make a shared sacrifice.

Oh, so it's only about those that YOU say it's about? Forgive me. :laugh:

Should bush and family members who support this war ..be apart of the shared sacrifice..yes or no...it is obvious they are not doing it now.

Only if they choose to be. They are free people with the same freedom to choose that you do. Whether or not they are related to the President is neither here nor even there.

your private e-mail is not working ..but keep on topic thanks.

Works just fine. You're welcome. :wavey:

 

[Terry_Herrington]

Was Adolph Hitler a direct threat to the United States? Why didnt we just take care of Japan and let it go at that?

Germany declared on the United States.

 

[Terry_Herrington]

What heavy price will George Bush pay for his miscalculations in Iraq? When he leaves office, he and his cronies will be richer than ever, having made millions from their stock in companies with defense contracts and oil companies.

He will go down in history as one of the worst, if not the absolute worse presidents in United States history. His children, grandchildren, other relatives and friends will read over and over about his failings and miscalculations.

 

[Ps104_33]

Hitler was going around attacking other nations

But he didnt attack the United states.

Germany declared on the United States.

So if this nutbag in Iran gets squirrelly and puts his foot in his mouth by "declaring" on the United States, then you would favor military action against Iran?

 

[Petra-O IX]

But he didnt attack the United states.



So if this nutbag in Iran gets squirrelly and puts his foot in his mouth by "declaring" on the United States, then you would favor military action against Iran?

Those German subs on our coastline must have been a figament of our imagination.
Just relying on memory here, didn't a german sub sink one of our passangers liners? I'll look it up later.
have a good day Ps104_33

 

[pinoybaptist]

He will go down in history as one of the worst, if not the absolute worse presidents in United States history. His children, grandchildren, other relatives and friends will read over and over about his failings and miscalculations.

I really don't think so.
That is not human nature.
Human nature is to "soften" the errors and focus more on the "bright" side of things.
Only God writes without apologies about His people.

 

[Daisy]

Was Adolph Hitler a direct threat to the United States? Why didnt we just take care of Japan and let it go at that?

Germany declared war on the US, remember?

I really don't think so.
That is not human nature.
Human nature is to "soften" the errors and focus more on the "bright" side of things.
Only God writes without apologies about His people.

Bush destablilized a major portion of the world and mortgaged the country to finance his ill-conceived war against Iraq - what is the "bright" side? That he lowered taxes, primarily for the rich, while borrowing from China?

 

[Ps104_33]

1) On September 22, 1980, Iraq invaded Iran, starting an 8 year war in which Iraq employed chemical weapons against Iranian troops and ballistic missiles against Iranian cities.

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](2) In February 1988, Iraq forcibly relocated Kurdish civilians from their home villages in the Anfal campaign, killing an estimated 50,000 to 180,000 Kurds. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](3) On March 16, 1988, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurdish civilian opponents in the town of Halabja, killing an estimated 5,000 Kurds and causing numerous birth defects that affect the town today. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](4) On August 2, 1990, Iraq invaded and began a 7 month occupation of Kuwait, killing and committing numerous abuses against Kuwaiti civilians, and setting Kuwait's oil wells ablaze upon retreat. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](5) Hostilities in Operation Desert Storm ended on February 28, 1991, and Iraq subsequently accepted the ceasefire conditions specified in United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (April 3, 1991) requiring Iraq, among other things, to disclose fully and permit the dismantlement of its weapons of mass destruction programs and submit to long-term monitoring and verification of such dismantlement. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](6) In April 1993, Iraq orchestrated a failed plot to assassinate former President George Bush during his April 14-16, 1993, visit to Kuwait. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](7) In October 1994, Iraq moved 80,000 troops to areas near the border with Kuwait, posing an imminent threat of a renewed invasion of or attack against Kuwait. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](8) On August 31, 1996, Iraq suppressed many of its opponents by helping one Kurdish faction capture Irbil, the seat of the Kurdish regional government. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](9) Since March 1996, Iraq has systematically sought to deny weapons inspectors from the United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) access to key facilities and documents, has on several occasions endangered the safe operation of UNSCOM helicopters transporting UNSCOM personnel in Iraq, and has persisted in a pattern of deception and concealment regarding the history of its weapons of mass destruction programs. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](10) On August 5, 1998, Iraq ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM, and subsequently threatened to end long-term monitoring activities by the International Atomic Energy Agency and UNSCOM. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](11) On August 14, 1998, President Clinton signed Public Law 105-235, which declared that `the Government of Iraq is in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations' and urged the President `to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations.'. [/FONT]

• • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif](12) On May 1, 1998, President Clinton signed Public Law 105-174, which made $5,000,000 available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition for such activities as organization, training, communication and dissemination of information, developing and implementing agreements among opposition groups, compiling information to support the indictment of Iraqi officials for war crimes, and for related purposes. [/FONT]

 

[Ps104_33]

Germany declared war on the US, remember?

Daisy, you didnt answer my question. If The president of Iran declares war on the United States, will you support the president if he attacks Iran? Dont be a hypocrite now.

 

[Ps104_33]

Those German subs on our coastline must have been a figament of our imagination.
Just relying on memory here, didn't a german sub sink one of our passangers liners? I'll look it up later.
have a good day Ps104_33

I thought that was all a plot by Churchill to drag the United States into the war. You seem like a conspiracy theorist. I'm sure you bought that one.

 

[poncho]

If Bush hadn't sent our military into Iraq what then would you complain about? If Bush was weak in response to terrorism and we had been attacked again since 911 would you then attack him for that also? If Bush had left Iraq alone and Saddam had launched more WMD against neighbors or his own people and continued to torture and murder thousands, would you then criticize Bush for doing nothing?
The liberals have done a splendid job at making it a fad to attack and hate Bush and it's a shame that people that call themselves Christian join right in as if acting like a heathen is natural to them.

It's a shame that Christians would support any administration that sponsors terrorism.