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Why is life in prison more "Christian" than the death penalty ?

Bro. Curtis

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matt wade said:
You still haven't answered the question. Given that you say the death penalty was not revoked, should we execute adulterers today?
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I won't be tricked. The death penalty is good enough for God, so it is surely good enough for me, like it is written, by a smarter being than me.


For all we know, the man ran and wasn't caught. Or another mob had the man a couple of streets over. The woman could have ran and they just caught up with here where Jesus was. There are many different possibilities. Neither you or I know what happened with the man.
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Hogwash. The pharisees were going to murder a woman. That is what Christ stopped. He didn't stop the death penalty, or it would certainly be in scripture. The man isn't mentioned, or even addressed, like he would have been, if it were to be a biblical punishment. Not sure why you don't see that. The bible says she was brought before Jesus. That indicates a controlled situation.
 
Bro. Curtis

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Hey, M.P., I kinda really want you to answerr my question, of when Jesus stopped the stoning of a man. I would really like to adress it, but can't find it. Can you help ?
 
Bro. Curtis

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Also, I cannot fathom how Christ went from Old Testament law, to no punishment, at all. And that IS the logical outcome of the argument, you can't avoid it. I can't read into scriture well enough to know if Jesus held the woman guilty of adultery, although he did recognize her as a sinner. But what IS clear to me is he held the Old Testament sacred. And he was not going to let anyone kill that woman without the proper BIBLICAL protocol.
 
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Magnetic Poles said:
Amazing how some view this as an issue in one's relationship with God rather than a difference of opinion in a non-essential.
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Correct. In fact, if you consider how blood-thirsty freeatlast appears, it will probably take him quite a while to get comfortable with Heaven. They don't have the death penalty there you know.
 
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Magnetic Poles

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if capital punishment is not a deterrent-- how many more buildings is Timothy McVeigh going to bomb?
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The same number as if he were in prison. If it were a deterrent, you'd see almost no murders in Texas. I recall reading somewhere (sorry, can't recall where) that most killings are crimes of passion, where the perpetrator is not considering his or her punishment at the time.
 
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Magnetic Poles

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Bro. Curtis said:
Hey, M.P., I kinda really want you to answerr my question, of when Jesus stopped the stoning of a man. I would really like to adress it, but can't find it. Can you help ?
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I don't recall offhand, Curtis...I was going on memory, and mine isn't as good as it used to be. I will see if I can locate it later. My memory may be faulty on that.
 
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Yup, some people consider their relationship with God in whatsoever they do, eating, drinking you name it. Amazing, ain't it! :smilewinkgrin:
 
Bro. Curtis

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Magnetic Poles said:
I don't recall offhand, Curtis...I was going on memory, and mine isn't as good as it used to be. I will see if I can locate it later. My memory may be faulty on that.
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OK, thanx. My memory ain't perfect, either.
 
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matt wade

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Bro. Curtis said:
I won't be tricked. The death penalty is good enough for God, so it is surely good enough for me, like it is written, by a smarter being than me.
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I don't know how it is tricking you. It's a simply question. Do you believe that we should execute adulterers today? Either you believe it or you don't. Why continue to avoid the question? I thought you were a straight shooter. You are sounding a lot like a politician.

Bro. Curtis said:
Hogwash. The pharisees were going to murder a woman. That is what Christ stopped. He didn't stop the death penalty, or it would certainly be in scripture. The man isn't mentioned, or even addressed, like he would have been, if it were to be a biblical punishment. Not sure why you don't see that. The bible says she was brought before Jesus. That indicates a controlled situation.
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He wasn't stopping a murder. He was stopping an execution based on Old Testament law. If you don't believe that the situation was about stoning a woman for adultery based upon Old Testament law, then you are in the minority with that interpretation.
 
Bro. Curtis

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matt wade said:
I don't know how it is tricking you. It's a simply question. Do you believe that we should execute adulterers today? Either you believe it or you don't. Why continue to avoid the question? I thought you were a straight shooter. You are sounding a lot like a politician.
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My history with you tells me to not engage you in these GOTCHA questions. I answered you, you just want to trip me up. You have been pretty nasty to me in the past. Why should I trust you ? I guess you will just have to accept that I don't.



He wasn't stopping a murder. He was stopping an execution based on Old Testament law. If you don't believe that the situation was about stoning a woman for adultery based upon Old Testament law, then you are in the minority with that interpretation.
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Nope. The man being absent disqualifies the episode from that law. I won't add to the scripture. Minority schmynority.
 
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Matt Black

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It's an interesting question, Bro Curtis, though: as the Law commanded that the death penalty be exacted for adultery as much as for murder, surely if we are to execute murderers then we should equally execute adulterers. Calvin's Geneva wasn't squeamish about this; why are you?
 
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sag38

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Enlighten us then old great one and rid us of our Biblical ignorance by quoting Voltaire. Please!!!
 
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sag38

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It's an interesting question, Bro Curtis, though: as the Law commanded that the death penalty be exacted for adultery as much as for murder, surely if we are to execute murderers then we should equally execute adulterers. Calvin's Geneva wasn't squeamish about this; why are you?

This is the same kind of manure (so called logic) that so called homosexual Christians use to justify their lifestyle.
 
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freeatlast

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The excuse to justify the death penalty from a Christians perspective should never be because they think it is a deterrent. There is only one reason for a believer to hold to the death penalty and that is because God has commended it. There should never be any joy of it being exercised as God gets no pleasure out of the death of the wicked. For those who claim to Know the Lord it should be fought for as any other standard He has given men if we love Him and His law. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. His love and mercy has always been the same as is His justice and He calls for the death penalty.
 
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