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Why Most of Your Church Don't Believe in Tithing

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DaChaser1

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HAMel said:
As I see it, OT tithing was under the law. As stated, the NT does not set a specific figure. Most church leaders however will encourage the ten percent tithing as it places somewhat of a guilt trip on some and helps to ensure a steady income.

The problem with someone having an income of 40 million and tithing ten percent is that once four million has been recognized by the rest of the church membership..., the rest would quit tithing. What would be the point in tithing at all if the local church's check balance reflected a four million dollar balance? Then, here comes the envy, and the gossip, and the resentment. Having an income of millions would turn into a curse.

Those who then would NOT tithe because there's plenty of money in the bank would end up losing any and all blessings from the Lord from their tithing. When ones tithes above and beyond with a pure heart the Lord blesses above and beyond.

We would all like to have millions in the bank but just consider for a moment what it would do to our humbleness.
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Did cain/Able bring the Lord first fruits/ a Tithe?
Did Abraham pay a tithe to Melchizedek?

Werent they before the law was given to Moses, so why was it under the law only?
 
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gb93433

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My wife and I were married in a church that gave 50% of its receipts to missions each year. They had 4 pastors and 1.5 secretaries. The pastors led the lay people in ministry. They trained and encouraged the leaders. One of the pastors told me that there was a waiting line for leadership. The people in that church did not tithe. They gave.
 
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DaChaser1

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gb93433 said:
My wife and I were married in a church that gave 50% of its receipts to missions each year. They had 4 pastors and 1.5 secretaries. The pastors led the lay people in ministry. They trained and encouraged the leaders. One of the pastors told me that there was a waiting line for leadership. The people in that church did not tithe. They gave.
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God will honor and receive under giving under a tithe principle or free will giving, as long as its 'from the heart/right attitude!"
 
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gb93433

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DaChaser1 said:
Did cain/Able bring the Lord first fruits/ a Tithe?
Did Abraham pay a tithe to Melchizedek?

Werent they before the law was given to Moses, so why was it under the law only?
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I think we must rememebr that in those days the religious establishment and government were one. Today we have several governments and religions in America. The government typically alone demands more than 23.33%. So if we adhere to the tithe and the combination of the church and government then either the government or my church would owe money.

I have wondered if that is the reason Jesus and Paul taught giving. Giving would do away with the complexity of that issue and it would also level out the standard of living for all. The rich would lower their standard of living so the poor could have theirs raised.
 
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DaChaser1

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gb93433 said:
I think we must rememebr that in those days the religious establishment and government were one. Today we have several governments and religions in America. The government typically alone demands more than 23.33%. So if we adhere to the tithe and the combination of the church and government then either the government or my church would owe money.

I have wondered if that is the reason Jesus and Paul taught giving. Giving would do away with the complexity of that issue and it would also level out the standard of living for all. The rich would lower their standard of living so the poor could have theirs raised.
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just was asking if fthe principle just might have been from god BEFORE the law was given!
 
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jbh28

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2 Corinthians 9:7 "Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."
 
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DaChaser1

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jbh28 said:
2 Corinthians 9:7 "Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."
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Yes!

regardless if convicted that God wants a tithe or free will offering, need to follow that principle you quoted!
 
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percho

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in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory,

Will there be the tithe or free will giving? Or anything?
 
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I just read the whole thread and did not see the principle I live by, which is: in the NT epistles, which explain the church, the tithe is not taught because ALL of what we are and have belongs to God, not just a tenth. A tithe, a mere tenth, is much too small.

"What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." ( 1Co 6:19-20)

I know a millionaire who became that after he went bankrupt. He went to God and asked what he should give to God's work. He started out with only a tenth, which he increased as God blessed, and now gives over 50%, and has contributed to the start of two Bible colleges.

A mere tenth? It is to laugh. A person who thinks God is satisfied with a mere tenth will never give his entire life to Christ, and thus never put himself in a position where God could call him or her as a missionary.
 
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annsni

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John of Japan said:
I just read the whole thread and did not see the principle I live by, which is: in the NT epistles, which explain the church, the tithe is not taught because ALL of what we are and have belongs to God, not just a tenth. A tithe, a mere tenth, is much too small.

"What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." ( 1Co 6:19-20)

I know a millionaire who became that after he went bankrupt. He went to God and asked what he should give to God's work. He started out with only a tenth, which he increased as God blessed, and now gives over 50%, and has contributed to the start of two Bible colleges.

A mere tenth? It is to laugh. A person who thinks God is satisfied with a mere tenth will never give his entire life to Christ, and thus never put himself in a position where God could call him or her as a missionary.
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AWESOME word John. Thank you for that.
 
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DaChaser1

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John of Japan said:
I just read the whole thread and did not see the principle I live by, which is: in the NT epistles, which explain the church, the tithe is not taught because ALL of what we are and have belongs to God, not just a tenth. A tithe, a mere tenth, is much too small.

"What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." ( 1Co 6:19-20)

I know a millionaire who became that after he went bankrupt. He went to God and asked what he should give to God's work. He started out with only a tenth, which he increased as God blessed, and now gives over 50%, and has contributed to the start of two Bible colleges.

A mere tenth? It is to laugh. A person who thinks God is satisfied with a mere tenth will never give his entire life to Christ, and thus never put himself in a position where God could call him or her as a missionary.
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Sounds like your friend has the "spiritual" Gift of giving from the Lord!
 
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DaChaser1

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annsni said:
AWESOME word John. Thank you for that.
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seems that it just might be combination of tithe as a standard reference point, with free will offerings above that, as the Lord blesses!

And his friend sounds like one who has been blessed with "gift of giving!"
 
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