Brightfame52
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You deny that Christs death redeems from all iniquity and purifies the people redeemed. When they are purified they are given Faith Acts 15:8-9BF where do you get your silly idea that I teach against the redemptive power of the risen Christ?
1Co_15:13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen.
1Co_15:14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty.
1Co_15:16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen.
1Co_15:17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins!
You seem to think that the sin of rejecting Christ/unbelief has been forgiven but you fail to think it through to the logical conclusion.
If one continues in their rejection / unbelief then they are not saved. Which is what the bible tells us
Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Look at what you wrote BF "To be redeemed from all iniquity is to be redeemed from, unbelief and disobedience, all wickedness,"
How can one be redeemed from unbelief when belief is the condition of redemption?
Act 16:31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved,
But then you last sentence shows the flaw in your thinking. You have people redeemed before they believe. You need to start trusting what the bible says rather than what you want the bible to say.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Man does not and can not save himself as only God can save and He has chosen to save those that trust in His son
Eph 2:8 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this [salvation is] not from yourselves, [this salvation] is the gift of God.”
And lest you think I am ignoring what you posted
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,
Tit 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Tit 2:14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.
Context will help you clear up your confusion. The grace of God is available to all men but salvation is conditional.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
See unbelief and rejecting Christ is nothing but iniquity, however Christs death redeems from all iniquity. If you dont believe that, you have no faith in Jesus Christ !