In my opinion J. D. Is a liberal and Mohler is a mixed bag.
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Why the SBC is no longer traditional Baptist
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Actually they are social liberals pushing the social justice garbage within the convention.
Come on... Marxist?!?!
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That’s actually a false statement that proves my point. Why would you say such a thing?
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Its not a false statement it is a well known fact.
I agree.
It has been an open debate within the SBC for over a year. I think some see social justice as a way of gaining members. At least the decline in baptisms is often mentioned in the debates.
What is even more disturbing is they are calling social justice a gospel issue.
Greear is like Pope Francis--a lefty that is not very intelligent. Moore is very political like Pope Francis. Mohler veers into cultural marxism for $$$.
I give you the social label. However, in my circles, "Liberal and Modernist" got thrown around like hand grenades. In the 60s, if a church had a robed choir or padded pews, some folks would call it Liberal. It didn't matter that theologically the church dated back to 1875 and was fundamentalist in doctrine before Fundamentalism was fun.
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But you’ve yet to argue your point, you’re just assuming you’re right.
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A blast from the past - the Northern Baptist Convention a century ago also had a push for Social Christianity. Who were involved? Men and women like Walter Rauschenbusch, Helen Barrett Montgomery, and San Francisco pastor Louis Sawyer!
Federal Council of Churches • 1916 Year Book of the Church and Social Service in the United States
Federal Council of Churches • 1916 Year Book of the Church and Social Service in the United States
Uh no I am not assuming I am right I know I am right. This will be the first year in a while I have not gone to the convention. I follow the issues in the SBC closely. I have conversations with other pastors in the SBC. I research these things intensely.
I don't need to prove it. If you want to know what is going on google is your friend. I already know. Hint: google social justice in the SBC. You will likely find all you need.
He said it because it is 100% true.
Unless you live under a log in a swamp, you should be well aware of the "social gospel" debate that came up at last SBC convention.
What does Mitchell need to prove? All people on here who keep up with SBC know he is right. Why don't you prove him wrong?
Yeup, out of Hamilton Square Baptist Churches pastors since 1881, he was an odd duck.
The Archangel
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No, you misunderstand. You’re begging the question—assuming the premise to be true. In this case you’re assuming Mohler and Moore espouse the “Social Gospel,” but you haven’t quoted them, for instance, to prove your claim. Without a proof, it is only an assertion—and a false one at that.
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Wooo, Moore is easy to show as a social liberal. That's why ERLC should be abolished but I don't want to offend the big spenders anywhere.
I think that the historians here could prove that the social gospel was huge during the 1930s, huh? Everyone should have a full belly....Actually, I heard that a lot during the Reagan years but I was working in what Indiana township government calls poor relief. I came to agree with the late E.V. Hill that salvation is more important than food--hungry belly Christians he called them.
I think that the historians here could prove that the social gospel was huge during the 1930s, huh? Everyone should have a full belly....Actually, I heard that a lot during the Reagan years but I was working in what Indiana township government calls poor relief. I came to agree with the late E.V. Hill that salvation is more important than food--hungry belly Christians he called them.
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If it is so easy to show Moore as a social liberal, why don’t you do so?
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Oh, I am a low-tech guy in a high-tech world and right now I am on a cell phone and I have trouble linking. Both Moore and Mohler seem to think that there is such a thing as homosexual orientation. Moore called the police last year on a reporter trying to ask him about his accommodation of homosexual groups. Perhaps you remember that?
Moore attacked Trump repeatedly and Trump called Moore a nasty guy with no heart.
Moore wants immigration, maybe for cheap labor, and is a critic of white policemen.
The ERLC is the Washington DC lobby of the SBC and Moore has illustrayed that point very well. The SBC is too big for its britches with this expensive lobby and it is time to close it down. People don't need either Richard Land or Russell Moore to rell them how to vote and to launch their personal attacks against the American White House. That's a job for Greear.
Moore attacked Trump repeatedly and Trump called Moore a nasty guy with no heart.
Moore wants immigration, maybe for cheap labor, and is a critic of white policemen.
The ERLC is the Washington DC lobby of the SBC and Moore has illustrayed that point very well. The SBC is too big for its britches with this expensive lobby and it is time to close it down. People don't need either Richard Land or Russell Moore to rell them how to vote and to launch their personal attacks against the American White House. That's a job for Greear.
In other words, they are all Marxist right
Religious McCarthyism at its finest.
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