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Reformed1689

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thing I do know is that if you get covid, it is too late to take the vaccines, until you survive and the antibodies begin to wain. That is why even those who have had the covid are still encouraged to get the vaccines.
With a recovery rate of 99.75% why do I need a vaccine again? I'll take my odds with the virus. Oh wait, I have the virus.
 

Marooncat79

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Btw. You are going to get Covid. Like it or not

it has been engineered for it to be so

this is not a scare tactic. Just a fact

Covid is over 97% survivable

God is in control, and yes you can rest and take comfort in that

see the immediate comment above and read it again. Then read it again

heed the words of Jesus, He has overcome the World
 

agedman

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I am learning a lot from the posts.

do not think I am hard nosed as it may have come across.

I did trust the trump folks a whole lot more than the socialists/communists that are undermining states and personal rights.

If the vaccines came from a single source, then I would be concerned, but they were derived from three different companies in the U,S. If even one was faked, the evidence would have come out by now considering the health care workers who have lived and work in close proximity to the patients.

Balancing my practicality though is the certainty of the providence and security in my Savior. So, I take precautions not because I particularly need them, but so others are without an excuse to accuse. My testimony must be that I live without reproach as best as I am able.

please do not think I am puffing up myself, rather, I am the vilest who was mercifully bought and brought to the Savior. I live completely indebted to Him.
 

Reformed1689

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Balancing my practicality though is the certainty of the providence and security in my Savior. So, I take precautions not because I particularly need them, but so others are without an excuse to accuse. My testimony must be that I live without reproach as best as I am able.
Which is your personal view, but not mandated by Scripture, so please don't force that view on others as it seems you are trying to do.
 

Marooncat79

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But it’s ok, Jesus has overcome the World


If God wants me to die of Covid, I am good w that! He determined that long ago, and there is nothing that I can do about it.

something about that absent from the body thing

did I mention that Jesus said that He had overcome the World? Might wanna believe that comment of His. Pretty sure it’s accurate and applicable
 

agedman

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Which is your personal view, but not mandated by Scripture, so please don't force that view on others as it seems you are trying to do.

i suppose that I came across as harsh and for that I do apologize. It is not me that is in authority, and is highly inappropriate for me to even suggest some of the things I posted.

I have learned much from the interaction on theses threads and appreciate all the posts in redirecting my thinking.

It gives me something to ponder rather than watching my toenails grow. :)

Quite a word picture?
 

Reformed1689

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i suppose that I came across as harsh and for that I do apologize. It is not me that is in authority, and is highly inappropriate for me to even suggest some of the things I posted.

I have learned much from the interaction on theses threads and appreciate all the posts in redirecting my thinking.

It gives me something to ponder rather than watching my toenails grow. :)

Quite a word picture?
Blessings brother. I know I often have to evaluate how I come across as well.
 

Andre

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The fact that the vaccine, despite what they say, has not been fully vetted. The process was rushed.
Incorrect, the process was not rushed. Unlike your unsubstantiated claim, I will now provide evidence from a reputable site - Johns Hopkins:

Studies found that the two initial vaccines are both about 95% effective — and reported no serious or life-threatening side effects. There are many reasons why the COVID-19 vaccines could be developed so quickly. Here are just a few:

  • The COVID-19 vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna were created with a method that has been in development for years, so the companies could start the vaccine development process early in the pandemic.
  • China isolated and shared genetic information about COVID-19 promptly, so scientists could start working on vaccines.
  • The vaccine developers didn’t skip any testing steps, but conducted some of the steps on an overlapping schedule to gather data faster.
  • Vaccine projects had plenty of resources, as governments invested in research and/or paid for vaccines in advance.
  • Some types of COVID-19 vaccines were created using messenger RNA (mRNA), which allows a faster approach than the traditional way that vaccines are made.
  • Social media helped companies find and engage study volunteers, and many were willing to help with COVID-19 vaccine research.
  • Because COVID-19 is so contagious and widespread, it did not take long to see if the vaccine worked for the study volunteers who were vaccinated.
  • Companies began making vaccines early in the process — even before FDA authorization — so some supplies were ready when authorization occurred.
 

Andre

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It is a new technology.
Falsehood. Again, from Johns Hopkins:

The mRNA technology behind the new coronavirus vaccines has been in development for almost two decades. Vaccine makers created the technology to help them respond quickly to a new pandemic illness, such as COVID-19.
 

Andre

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Incorrect to you

vaccines usually take 7-14 yrs to vette. These took roughly 6-8 months or so

by the way. I work in the “Covid” industry
No, your statement was false as written.

The shots were, of course, vetted - to suggest otherwise is absurd. They may not have been vetted exactly as other vaccines have been vetted, but they were most certainly vetted by any reasonable definition of the term "vetted".
 

Marooncat79

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Why are people dying from them. >12,000 at this point
Tens of thousands of people w physical problems EX: our friend Kim had to have shoulder reconstructed
Shot doesn’t work. If it does, why do we need endless boosters
Teen boys are 6times more likely to die from the shot than not being vaccinated
 

Marooncat79

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No, your statement was false as written.

The shots were, of course, vetted - to suggest otherwise is absurd. They may not have been vetted exactly as other vaccines have been vetted, but they were most certainly vetted by any reasonable definition of the term "vetted".


Definitely NOT! there is some evidence the shot is causing miscarriages

6-8 months is not multiple years like other vaccines

again, I am in the “COVID” industry.
 

canadyjd

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How did the government politicize these vaccines?

Again, a rather vague claim.
Prior to Election Day 2020, the Dems were saying they didn’t trust the vaccines because Trump had pushed hard to get them. That is politicizing the vaccine.

Now, the same people who publicly stated they wouldn’t trust the vaccine are trying to mandate the vaccine by unconstitutional means. They go so far as to claim the unvaccinated must be mandated to be vaccinated to protect the vaccinated. That is the stupidest thing said in this debate. That is politicizing the vaccine.

The scientific “experts” at first stated it was “silly” to wear masks all day because they didn’t work. The same “experts” now say masked should be mandatory because the “science has changed”. They don’t really say how the science has changed; a mask will protect you or not; the only thing that changed is the Dems are in charge and they want mask mandates. That is politicizing the vaccine/virus.

I hope that info is specific enough for you.

peace to you
 
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