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Will Jesus succeed at uniting all things to himself?

atpollard

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Of course. In my experience all the scripture in the world won't budge the vast majority of Chritians from their doctrine that Jesus tortures people forever in Hell.
It is a subtle point, but just for the record, I do not believe that Jesus has a foot on the head of those in torment holding them in Hell … the locks on the gates of Hell were broken in AD 33 when Jesus led the captives free. Those still languishing in Hell do so because Hell is the only place they can hide from the presence of God:

Genesis 3:8 [YLT] And they hear the sound of Jehovah God walking up and down in the garden at the breeze of the day, and the man and his wife hide themselves from the face of Jehovah God in the midst of the trees of the garden.

John 3:19-20 [YLT] 'And this is the judgment, that the light hath come to the world, and men did love the darkness rather than the light, for their works were evil; for every one who is doing wicked things hateth the light, and doth not come unto the light, that his works may not be detected;

Hebrews 10:26-31 [YLT] For we -- willfully sinning after the receiving the full knowledge of the truth -- no more for sins doth there remain a sacrifice, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment, and fiery zeal, about to devour the opposers; any one who did set at nought a law of Moses, apart from mercies, by two or three witnesses, doth die, of how much sorer punishment shall he be counted worthy who the Son of God did trample on, and the blood of the covenant did count a common thing, in which he was sanctified, and to the Spirit of the grace did despite? for we have known Him who is saying, 'Vengeance [is] Mine, I will recompense, saith the Lord;' and again, 'The Lord shall judge His people;' -- fearful [is] the falling into the hands of a living God.

Hell is the self-inflicted choice of those who willfully reject their CREATOR.
Without God’s hand to restrain Man’s dark proclivities, we are free to spiral to demonic depths of darkness unhindered, fleeing the light for the “PLACE OF DARKNESS”.
 

Oseas3

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The picture below illustrates what it means for everyone to be under Jesus's feet. Please note that Jesus will rule the Kingdom until ALL enemies have freely chosen to follow him. With that Jesus will have completed his mission to unite ALL THINGS into him and then Jesus gives the completed Kingdom to the Father.
1 Corinthians 15:25
English Standard Version
25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
View attachment 12973 ->demonic picture of post #18 - take a look
The picture above is showing SATAN enthonized on his DEMONIC throne, but now, from now on, he will be cast down into the bottomless pit- Revelation 20:1-4.
Paul apostle warned: ->2Thessalonians 2:3-13, as follow:

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that Day (the current seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium) shall not come, except there come a falling away first(1Timothy 4:1-2, take a look), and that MAN of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God(in Jerusalem-Isaiah 14:13-15 combined with Psalms 48:2, take a look) shewing himself that he is God.->(GET BEHIND US SATAN)

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be REVEALED IN HIS TIME.
8 Then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the LORD shall consume with the Spirit of His mouth(His Word-John 6:63 combined with John 12:48, take a look), and shall DESTROY with the brightness of His coming: -> (in the day 1335- Daniel 12:12. Go to meet Him-Matthew 25:6-10)

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan(AS WE SEE IN THE SATANIC PICTURE ABOVE POSTED) with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that PERISH; because they received not the love of the Truth, that they might be SAVED.
11 And for this cause GOD(the Most High GOD) shall send them STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie:->(like the IDOLATRY above created by the Gentile MAN Beast of sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy-Revelation 13:1-10, the main partner of the MAN Beast of the earth, the DRAGON having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads, a false lamb, a false messiah-John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11 and Revelation 12:3-4 and 9, and so on).

Yeah, for this cause GOD(the Most High GOD)
shall send them STRONG DELUSION, that they should BELIEVE A LIE:->
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.->(spreading idolatry as the satanic picture and others above posted, even in this Christian site - Get behind us Satan)

13 But we(TRUE BELIEVERS) are bound to give thanks alway to GOD for His people, brethren beloved of the Lord, because GOD hath from the beginning chosen them to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth: -> 1John 5:18-21 : ->
18 We know that whosoever is born of GOD sinneth not; but he that is begotten of GOD keepeth himself, and that Wicked one toucheth him not.
19 And we know that we are of GOD, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
20 And we know that the Son of GOD is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is True, and we are in Him that is True, even in His Son JESUS Christ. This is the true GOD, and eternal life.

21 Little children, KEEP YOURSELVES FROM IDOLS. Amen.
 
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JonC

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Ephesians 1:9-10
making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

It is God's will that ALL THINGS be united in Jesus and then given over to himself forever. Mainstream Christianity teaches that God doesn't get what God wants and that Jesus FAILS his mission.

I believe otherwise. What do you believe?
I also believe otherwise. All things are united in Him. This is why those who remain wicked will perish.

Think of making a gold ring. You refine the metal and burn out all the impurities. If the metal contains no gold it perishes. If it contains gold that which is not hold perishes and you have gold.
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
The picture below illustrates what it means for everyone to be under Jesus's feet.
The picture above is showing SATAN enthonized on his DEMONIC throne as is written:->(Isaiah 14:13-15 combined with Psalms 48:2 and 2Thessalonians 2:3-4), take a look) but now, from now on, he will be cast down into the bottomless pit- Revelation 20:1-4.
Please note that Jesus will rule the Kingdom until ALL enemies have freely chosen to follow him.
Wrong. It is what the spirit of Devil says. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD-John 1:1. The Word says: 1Corinthians 15:24- The END cometh when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to GOD, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all ENEMIES under His feet. ->(But the Devil says:-> ""ALL enemies have freely chosen to follow him"" ->(JESUS said: JOHN 8:44:-> 44 Ye are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.. ->(Revelation 6:8->8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was DEATH, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword(BY ALLEGORY, A DEMONIC MOUTH), and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts (brute beasts) of the earth.
26 And the last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

With that Jesus will have completed his mission to unite ALL THINGS into him and then Jesus gives the completed Kingdom to the Father.
1 Corinthians 15:25 - English Standard Version
25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
2Thessalonians 1:5-10

5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous Judgment of G0D, that ye (true believers) may be counted worthy of the kingdom of GOD, for which ye also suffer:

6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with GOD to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be REVEALED from heaven with His mighty messengers,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not GOD, and that OBEY NOT the gospel of our Lord JESUS Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting DESTRUCTION from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His Power;-> Matthew 28:18, take a look

10 When He shall come to be glorified in His saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that Day. -> (the Lord's Day, the seventh snd last Day, or seventh and last millennium).

Revelation 21:8-> 8 But the fearful(the COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, AND ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
 
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