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Will the Jews build a new temple in Jerusalem?

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  1. robycop3

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    You are making a huge mistake. You assume John is referring to the Pharisees Pre-Millennialism just because he mentions 1000 Years. But he is not. 1000 means "a lot" "many" if you are familiar with the OT usage. Plus, Scripture never mentions a millennium so you are adding to God's word when you say John refers to it. Also, Jesus reduced Millennialism to rubble in the gospels if you are born again and can see it.

    Don't assume anything you cannot prove from scripture.
     
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    A few years back, some professors from Hebrew University made an unauthorized tour of the tunnels beneath the dome, believing they'de been made by the Israelis while the old temple stood. Turns out they were right. They also found that the temple had stood beside where the dome now sits, so the destruction of the dome is not a prerequisite for building the new temple.

    When the Israeli security forces that patrol the area in agreement with several Moslem entities found the professors, they politely ordered them out lest their presence start a war, but of course the security, being Jewish, wasn't harsh with them.


    Right now, no Moslem would be happy with having a Jewish temple beside their second-holiest site, so I'm thinking there'll be some kinda treaty brokered to allow it. Perhaps even the antichrist will swing it, as nothing in Scripture says that temple must be built before he comes.

    So, I believe the next significant prophetic event will be either the building of that temple or the coming of the beast/antichrist to power.
     
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    Why, Scripture CERTAINLY mentions the millenium ! !

    Rev. 20:1
    Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

    What else is a thousand years but a millenium?
     
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    it's dogmatic(?) to start declaring what one could see ... if only you had eyes like mine. Right?

    whatever term you want to use ... scripture is quite clear on the existence of a time period whereby Jesus will reign on this post-armaggedon earth for 1000 years (that's called a millennium) and at the end of it, Satan will be destroyed forever.

    Why? Why not simply dispatch the devil upon the Second Coming? IDK. I'll understand it better by and by.

    I will highlight the outline of mankind's dominion ... and even existence in THIS earth being in Creation itself.

    6 days of Creation ... 1 day of rest

    6000 years God's Spirit striving with man (Gen 6) ... 120 jubilee years ... 1000 years demonstrating how it was supposed to be ... then the New Jerusalem.

    That's how I understand it.
     
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    This is not what it says. The 1000 years = the binding of Satan.
    “And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.” Revelation 20:2–3 (KJV 1900)
     
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    Well, actually, Satan will be sent to hell forever. He won't be destroyed.
     
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    touche ... that's what I get for trying to bounce through the pasture to feed cattle and reply to Baptist Board! :p
     
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    What does "Let the reader understand" refer to? The same phrase is also in Mark 13:14. Are both Matthew and Mark telling their audiences of the distant future what they are to understand? Since the immediate context is "what was spoken of through Daniel the prophet", it is clear that the phrase refers to the reader of Daniel in both gospels. This proves Christ's words are meant for Him immediate audience.

    How do you know His disciples did not see the AOD? How do you know it hasn't happened yet? This fits perfectly with what Jesus spoke in the Olivet Discourse.

    How do you know Jesus was not using hyperbole? Yes, He was quite literal when predicting the destruction of the Temple. However, that doesn't mean He did not use any hyperbole in His answer. Hyperbole is often mixed with "literal" language. The Great Tribulation was not a worldwide event, but local. This was the Jewish War (AD 66-70). The Roman army's acts of emperor worship in the Temple fulfilled the AOD event.

    Matthew 24:30 says that "the sign of the Son of Man will appear". He "came" in judgment on Israel in the destruction of Jerusalem.
     
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    When you run into that problem on here its best to MMMOOOOOOOOOOVE along... Brother Glen:Biggrin
     
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