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Will there be a "millenium" in which Jesus physically rules this earth?

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Yeshua1

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The Bible speaks of a Messianic rule on earth which is yet future. It comes back down to what exactly is the New Covenant and does God actually keep His promises or does He change His mind due to a lack of what the A-mills think is a lack of patience.
The OT prophets foresaw the Messianic Age as time when Messiah ruled as king over earth, not just from Heaven!
 

robycop3

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No. But there are lots of symbolic language. Unless you believe every time Christ speaks a literal sword shoots out.
I believe the symbolic parts are easily-discerned, with many being explained later, such as Rev. 17. And some is partially symbolic, such as the 2nd Babylon. I believe the angel was describing a literal city, symbolcally called "Babylon". (The first Babylon still existed in those days, while being quite-unimportant.) But i believe the descriptions of what the antichrist & his sidekick the false prophet will do are quite-literal, as is the descriptions of the trib plagues, and of the millenium, among others.
 

1689Dave

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On another thread, a gent said there won't be any "millenium", despite Scripture's PROVING there will be. I shall now post those Scriptures:

Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Remember, this is after Jesus has returned.

I don't see how that gent can deny there'll be a "millenium" in the face of those Scriptures. Other Readers, what are YOUR thoughts & opinions? Please note the verses surrounding those I posted. The gent who posted the denial is welcome also.
Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world. It comes not with observation. Only the born again can see it. Among many other things that place you among the Pharisees who invented the idea.
 

robycop3

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Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world. It comes not with observation. Only the born again can see it. Among many other things that place you among the Pharisees who invented the idea.
So you don't believe Scripture, either, same as that other chap. Oh well, God said there'd come a great "falling away" before "the end".
 

37818

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No. But there are lots of symbolic language. Unless you believe every time Christ speaks a literal sword shoots out.
All symbolic language uses words which have a literal meaning [symblism explained Revelation 1:20]. What I find to be crazy Bible interpreations are where what is actually literal are claimed to be symbolic.
 

1689Dave

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So you don't believe Scripture, either, same as that other chap. Oh well, God said there'd come a great "falling away" before "the end".
It's been here since Dispensationalism took root along with American Pentecostalism. Neither of these has roots in historic Christian truth.
 

robycop3

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All symbolic language uses words which have a literal meaning [symblism explained Revelation 1:20]. What I find to be crazy Bible interpreations are where what is actually literal are claimed to be symbolic.
I agree.
 

robycop3

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It's been here since Dispensationalism took root along with American Pentecostalism. Neither of these has roots in historic Christian truth.
Well, actually, dispensationalism is true. There are several schools of it, which are NOT true, such as the false "seven church ages" doctrine, invented by Darby in Britain & pushed in the US by such charlatans as William Branham. (D. 1965)

But I agree that most pentecostal branches are full of false doctrines such as one MUST "speak in tongues" as proof of salvation, or the heretical "oneness" gang.
 

Yeshua1

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Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world. It comes not with observation. Only the born again can see it. Among many other things that place you among the Pharisees who invented the idea.
Spiritual Kingdom will at His second coming be manifested as physical, as messianic Age on earth!
 

Yeshua1

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Well, actually, dispensationalism is true. There are several schools of it, which are NOT true, such as the false "seven church ages" doctrine, invented by Darby in Britain & pushed in the US by such charlatans as William Branham. (D. 1965)

But I agree that most pentecostal branches are full of false doctrines such as one MUST "speak in tongues" as proof of salvation, or the heretical "oneness" gang.
Don't forget the word of faith, modern day Prophets and Apostles teachings!
 

Dave G

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Dave G,

Hello DG,
We have not interacted in a while, hope you are well.
I'm fine Tony, thanks.
No we have not interacted for a while, and it has become apparent to me that it is this very subject that somehow stands in the way and causes me not to want to interact, as I've really no wish to argue with you about the Bible.

As for the rest of what you stated in your post to me above,
I can see by the tone of your post that you're convinced against the Lord Jesus Christ ruling and reigning someday from Jerusalem, and I can see that we don't understand the Scriptures the same way on this subject... and it's very possible that we probably never will agree on them.

For the record and as in other threads about this topic,
I do not see the Bible teaching "amillennialism" and I never have... and my understanding about the end times is very different than yours seems to be;
That said, I see no reason for either of us to ever speak about it again.


I wish you well, and may God bless you.:)
 
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