Woman! Put you your head covering on and SHUT UP!

[webdog]

What about a woman who is going through chemotherapy that loses her hair? Is she not allowed to attend church? It seems to me that these things have to be taken in the context given. I believe the context in this instance is cultural.

 

[Brother Bob]

What about a woman who is going through chemotherapy that loses her hair? Is she not allowed to attend church? It seems to me that these things have to be taken in the context given. I believe the context in this instance is cultural.

wasn't her choosing.

 

[webdog]

wasn't her choosing.

The cancer...or not being allowed in the church?

 

[Brother Bob]

cancer, wouldn't keep her out of church whatsoever. Matter of fact the church would gather around her for support.

 

[webdog]

Gotcha...

 

[James_Newman]

Brother Bob, the very scripture you quote is what proves that the "covering" can NOT be her hair.

"If she be not covered" = short hair (according to you)
"let her be shorn" - short hair

So let me see - are you saying that it says "If she have short hair, let her have short hair".

The only way the passage makes sense is if the covering is not hair but a veil (as hebraeists can easily validate).

Now, here is the correct understanding:

If she be uncovered, let her be shorn also, for if she has no shame in uncovering her head, she should not be ashamed of cutting off her hair either.

Is there not a difference between short hair and shorn? I have seen sheep that have been shorn, and it is usually almost to the skin. Yes, that is short hair, but at what point does short become shorn? I realize that some interpret this to mean that a woman should not ever cut her hair, but it is possible to 'shear' the ends off without becoming 'shorn'.

 

[Brother Bob]

Absolutely right Jim;
Women's hair dies at the ends and nothing wrong with cutting off that which is dead already.

 

[Bro Tony]

Absolutely right Jim;
Women's hair dies at the ends and nothing wrong with cutting off that which is dead already.

There has got to be a sermon in there somewhere Bro Bob:thumbsup:

Bro Tony

 

[Eliyahu]

What about a woman who is going through chemotherapy that loses her hair? Is she not allowed to attend church? It seems to me that these things have to be taken in the context given. I believe the context in this instance is cultural.

We had a lady who suffered Leukemea, but had no problem with attending the gatherings. She wore a hat or had many ways whichever she wanted. Human beings try to find out many ways to excuse their disobedience to God.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Let me ask a question out of simple curiousity.

What if you had a single woman, like myself, who was visiting your church and who had short hair?

Would you ask her not to return for three or four years until her hair grew out or would you have hats for her to wear until it grew out?

I am very curious and don't mean to be coy in any way.

 

[webdog]

We had a lady who suffered Leukemea, but had no problem with attending the gatherings. She wore a hat or had many ways whichever she wanted. Human beings try to find out many ways to excuse their disobedience to God.

...or is it humans find many ways to tell God what sin is?

 

[Brother Bob]

Why was a whole chapter written on the subject. There must of been a reason. Anybody go one?

 

[Eliyahu]

...or is it humans find many ways to tell God what sin is?

We should not try to invent a way to disobey what God commanded, or twist the words of God to suit our desire or our convenience.

We obey Our Lord by celebrating Lord's Supper every week with the emblem of Bread and Wine.
We obey God by calling Brother and Sister each other as Jesus commanded in Mt 23:8-11. When we call elders, we call them Brothers who work as elders.
We perform "disciplines" as we learn from 1 Cor 5 when we notice misconducts.
We find many sisters working a lot for the assemblies joyfully and they are happy because they know they obeyed the Lord.
I don't think they will be behind any other denomination's ladies in getting the reward from the Lord on His Day.
Do you want to teach them that they are wrong?
Do you expect that God will rebuke them because they followed the Bible teachings literally ?
We OBEY God as our Lord obey His Father even to death, which resulted in the Crucifixion.

 

[webdog]

We should not try to invent a way to disobey what God commanded, or twist the words of God to suit our desire or our convenience.

Do you commit animal sacrifices?

 

[Inquiring Mind]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm very good reply!

 

[Eliyahu]

Do you commit animal sacrifices?

It is not a right allusion or comparison to mention animal sacrifice.

Don't you know that all animal sacrifices were completed at the Cross when He cried " It is finished" ?
Do you think we do not know that all the Old Testament commandments were completed at the Cross?

We believe all the teachings of OT was already integrated in NT church teachings.

That's why we follow the NT commandments and Early Church demonstrated it very well.
Early Church performed, practiced, obeyed,
1) Calling Brothers and Sisters each other ( Mt 23:8-11)
2) No priest, but all born-again believers were priests ( 1 Pet 2:5-9)
3) Plural Elders ( Overseers) Deacons ( 1 Tim 3:1-13)
4) Baptism by immersion ( Acts 8:37-38)
5) Weekly Lord's Supper ( 1 Cor 11:23-30, Mt 26:26)
6) Women's head covering ( 1Cor 11:1-16)
7) Women's silence in the church service ( 1 Cor 14:34-35)
8) Letter of Commendation when the saints visit other churches (Romans 16:1)
9) Discipline on the misconducts ( 1 Cor 5)

Are they wrong because they obey God and Bible teachings?

On the Day of Great Judgment, they can excuse that they followed Bible teachings if you condemn them.

 

[Bro Tony]

Do you commit animal sacrifices?

Only when I bar-b-que---the burnt offerings are great!!!:laugh: :thumbsup:

Bro Tony