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Woman tells newspaper Roy Moore groped her when she was 14; other women make similar claims

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InTheLight

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Do you remember everyone you met 40 years ago?

I think I would remember a girl who served me food at a diner on a daily basis, who I said I loved and signed her yearbook.

Or maybe the problem is he knew so many 16 year olds he can't remember her.
 

carpro

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I think I would remember a girl who served me food at a diner on a daily basis, who I said I loved and signed her yearbook.

Or maybe the problem is he knew so many 16 year olds he can't remember her.

Maybe he's not as perfect as you are and he might have signed a lot of annuals at some kind of public function or functions. Can you prove he didn't?

This I can tell you...I can go through my high school annual right now and find the signatures of people I don't remember at all. I certainly can't remember whose I signed and whose I didn't. Granted it's been 50 years instead of 40. Maybe that makes all the difference.:Biggrin
 

InTheLight

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Maybe he's not as perfect as you are and he might have signed a lot of annuals at some kind of public function or functions. Can you prove he didn't?

Oh my...is this what your defense has amounted to--"Can you prove he didn't do something?"

Why not apply your standard of proof and have Roy Moore prove he didn't sexually assault these girls?

Curious--why are you so gung ho to defend this person? I was defending him early on, giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I'm with Calminian, I can't do it any longer.
 

carpro

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Oh my...is this what your defense has amounted to--"Can you prove he didn't do something?"

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You've had plenty of opportunities to prove he DID something, and have failed to do so.

Is that what your case comes down to? Nothing.

When you have PROOF of anything at all, get back to me. Meanwhle run for the hills.:Laugh
 

InTheLight

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You've had plenty of opportunities to prove he DID something, and have failed to do so.

Is that what your case comes down to? Nothing.

When you have PROOF of anything at all, get back to me. Meanwhle run for the hills.:Laugh

I'm not prosecuting anything. And there is no case. There is an election, however.
There's testimony of five witnesses and written evidence that Moore knew one of them. Also Moore does not deny dating teenage girls. There is proof that he went after teenage girls as a 30, 31, 32 year old man.
That should be enough to question his judgment and not vote for him.
 
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Calminian

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Dig deep enough and most politicians have enough dirt they need expelled.

All people have dirt, but not all have sexual predation in their past, particularly against teens. My biggest problem with this is comparing him to Clinton and attacking his accusers that way Clinton's accusers were attacked. There's no real difference except maybe their age. The women seem every bit as credible as Clinton's accusers.
 

KenH

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d? If you made a list of all the political issues, which issue would you place at the top as most important according to how Jesus Christ would place them.

Since there is no record of Jesus voting, I would not attempt to do such a thing. And in line with that I often think that maybe David Lipscomb had it right in his treatise, “On Civil Government”, that Christians should have nothing to do with the political process. It is just a hard thing to avoid in this country these days without a tremendous amount of self-control.
 

carpro

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I'm not prosecuting anything. And there is no case. There is an election, however.
There's testimony of five witnesses and written evidence that Moore knew one of them. Also Moore does not deny dating teenage girls.
That should be enough to question his judgment and not vote for him.

You do not have the testimony of 5 "witnessess" that he did anything illegal. And you have no proof that Moore knew any of them. Period.

And when it comes to elections, nothing has to be proved. We must never believe that democrats and/or a left wing press would ever dig up someone to tell a le and pay them to do so. We must believe every scurrilous accusation that is made. Is that your position now?

Bottom line, it's up to the voters of Alabama. Without concrete proof of wrongdoing, everyone else should just butt out. Especially establishment republicans who would rather throw an election than do what the public has elected them to do.
 

carpro

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Dig deep enough and most politicians have enough dirt they need expelled.

So you are just casually dismissing the corruption of a Menendez and ready to judge Moore guilty with less proof against him than Menendez has.

Got it.
 

Calminian

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Since there is no record of Jesus voting, I would not attempt to do such a thing. And in line with that I often think that maybe David Lipscomb had it right in his treatise, “On Civil Government”, that Christians should have nothing to do with the political process. It is just a hard thing to avoid in this country these days without a tremendous amount of self-control.

I think the abortion-holocaust stands alone. Mass murder of innocent babies that exceeds the total combined murders of Hitler and Stalin should be a no brainer. A child was murdered just in the time it took me to compose this response.
 

InTheLight

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You do not have the testimony of 5 "witnessess" that he did anything illegal.

A 32 year old man sexually touching a 14 year old girl is illegal. This is Leigh Corfman's allegation.

And you have no proof that Moore knew any of them. Period.

Wait for the handwriting experts to confirm or deny that the handwriting in Beverly Young Nelson's yearbook.

And when it comes to elections, nothing has to be proved. We must never believe that democrats and/or a left wing press would ever dig up someone to tell a le and pay them to do so. We must believe every scurrilous accusation that is made. Is that your position now?

No, and it never has been my position. Shame on you.
Roy Moore admits to dating teenage girls when he was in his 30's. That shows bad judgment. Based on that, and that alone, I wouldn't vote for him.

Bottom line, it's up to the voters of Alabama.

Yep.

Without concrete proof of wrongdoing, everyone else should just butt out.

That's not how it works.
 

Calminian

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You do not have the testimony of 5 "witnessess" that he did anything illegal. ....

This is jus sick. You think sexual acts on 14 year olds by 30 year olds is legal and acceptable? This is why I'm starting to believe Roy Moore is toxic. He's turning conservatives into little James Carvilles.
 

carpro

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A 32 year old man sexually touching a 14 year old girl is illegal. This is Leigh Corfman's allegation.

Wait for the handwriting experts to confirm or deny that the handwriting in Beverly Young Nelson's yearbook.

Roy Moore admits to dating teenage girls when he was in his 30's. That shows bad judgment. Based on that, and that alone, I wouldn't vote for him.

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Right. You have 1 allegation of illegal behavior, not 5.

Even if the handwriting is confirmed, it doesn't prove he KNEW her. It merely proves he signed the annual.

I must have missed where he admitted he dated teenagers. Not that it matters from a legal standpoint, why don't you post it for me.

You're not going to get the opportunity to vote for him, so it really doesn't matter whether you would or not.

The people of Alabama are perfectly capable of sorting this out on their own and I'm willing to let them.
 
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