Women "Co-teaching" adult S.S.

[Reynolds]

Reynolds, you make a statement then use it to come to a wrong conclusion.
Homosexuality is sin forbidden by the law.

but our life principle is not the law. The just shall live by faith and whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
Paul looked for perfection in the saints and perfection only came through the fruit of the Spirit namely agape love.

if we have a temptation to wander from the leading of the Spirit then if we acknowledge our sin He is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and to cleanse from all unrighteousness.

Presumably if we do our part and acknowledge our sin He will do His and forgive AND cleanse us from it.
If we find ourselves still entangled in sin after several years perhaps then we need intervention.

Do you need prayer bro?

Homosexuality is forbidden in the New Testament. Thats not "the law". Jesus did not destroy the law, He fulfilled it. Are women pastors OK?
Everyone needs prayer.

 

[Yeshua1]

Homosexuality is forbidden in the New Testament. Thats not "the law". Jesus did not destroy the law, He fulfilled it. Are women pastors OK?
Everyone needs prayer.

Homosexual/lesbian lifestyle forbidden by God in both Ot/NT, and female pastors are not permitted by NT!

 

[Reynolds]

Homosexual/lesbian lifestyle forbidden by God in both Ot/NT, and female pastors are not permitted by NT!

We agree. Its Hank who is flailing in the French weeds. It seems like he is proposing "if its right to me" then its ok? If my faith tells me its fine, it does not matter what scripture says?
Since you have weighed in, is it ok for women to teach men In S.S?

 

[HankD]

Homosexuality is forbidden in the New Testament. Thats not "the law".

yes it is the law its certainly not grace.

Are women pastors OK?

if the men wont do it, yes.

Everyone needs prayer.

OK

 

[Reynolds]

yes it is the law its certainly not grace.

if the men wont do it, yes.
OK

Grace should allow homosexuality???
As for women pastors, Paul said cant and and Hank said can. I think I will side with Paul.

 

[HankD]

Grace should allow homosexuality???

You said it.

As for women pastors, Paul said cant and and Hank said can. I think I will side with Paul.

actually he did not use those exact words.

 

[Reynolds]

You said it.
actually he did not use those exact words.

I am asking you if it should. Notice the question mark. Paul plainly forbade women pastors.

 

[HankD]

I am asking you if it should. Notice the question mark. Paul plainly forbade women pastors.

he never used those words so it isn't "plainly".

 

[Reynolds]

he never used those words so it isn't "plainly".

Do you dispute Paul prohibited women filling the office of Pastor?

 

[HankD]

Do you dispute Paul prohibited women filling the office of Pastor?

technically, yes. he only uses the word "pastor" once and not in reference to who is who.

he admonishes "women" to be quiet in the church.
but he does not tell me as a man to avoid their teaching me anything.

 

[Reynolds]

technically, yes. he only uses the word "pastor" once and not in reference to who is who.

he admonishes "women" to be quiet in the church.
but he does not tell me as a man to avoid their teaching me anything.

They writing notes?

 

[HankD]

They writing notes?

1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

So, i would like to see this rule enforced in American churches - be prepared for an ecclesiastic Civil War.

This means no women leading in prayer, no women singing, no teaching of children, other women , MOUTHS ZIPPED! Good Luck with that.

 

[HankD]

is anyone brave enough to look at this passage as one that Paul through the Spirit as a scripture given by concession?
As one to whom he speaks to the Corinthians as "babes".

1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

Many/most of them coming out of the Hellenistic Mystery drug cults dominated by female priestesses.

 

[Reynolds]

1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

So, i would like to see this rule enforced in American churches - be prepared for an ecclesiastic Civil War.

This means no women leading in prayer, no women singing, no teaching of children, other women , MOUTHS ZIPPED! Good Luck with that.

Hank. You are ignoring the fact that Paul in the same passage told women to teach Children and other women. You are trying so hard to rebel against the command of Paul that your judgment is becoming clouded.

 

[HankD]

Hank. You are ignoring the fact that Paul in the same passage told women to teach Children and other women.

could you point that for me in that same passage

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

 

[George Antonios]

Adult Sunday School for married couples being "co-taught" by a husband and wife? Right or wrong?
Our church recently started this. I believe its the final straw that will send me packing.

Wrong, as Paul tells us. And this is just a transition into full-on woman-leadership.

 

[HankD]

Wrong, as Paul tells us. And this is just a transition into full-on woman-leadership.

SO, Yea or Nay? do you approve of female church leadership?

 

[George Antonios]

The O.P. asked "Adult Sunday School for married couples being "co-taught" by a husband and wife? Right or wrong?"

So I answered: "wrong".

 

[Jerome]

1 Corinthians 14:34

Hank. You are ignoring the fact that Paul in the same passage told women to teach Children and other women.

What?
Where are you seeing that in the passage?

1 Corinthians 14

 

[HankD]

here's a what-if for those who answer "wrong" To the O/P: (NOTE this is not a GOTCHA. I am sincerely seeking wisdom for the issue of women leadership in the church and WHERE different pastors draw the line).

what-if you have a Sunday school class and one of the female students asks a question?
what-if its a challenge type question?

1 Corinthians 14
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

was Paul addressing the Corinthian women only per a temporary restriction? OR ... ??