Scarlet,
I am not ticked at women! Far be it from me. I am ticked at people who explain away clear and consistent declarations of the Word of God! I am ticked at people who deny the Word of God as authoritative. I am not ticked at women. If anything I am ticked at the men who let them stand in the church and teach the written Word of God in an authoritative manner.
StandingFirm,
Corrections in the name of precision (more on that in a moment):
The woman at the well did not “preach” (kerussw) (I am not checking Grk spelling, so you scholars out there cut me a little slack, ok), she did not “teach” (didaskw), she “spoke” - simple legw. Nor did she speak to all about Christ, she “said” to the men, “come see a man who told me all that ever I did, could this be the Messiah” (John 4:29). She did “testify” (marturew) about her encounter with Jesus (4:39).
The women at the tomb were not told to preach, they were told to tell (epw-Matt 28:7, Mrk 16:7 and epangellew (Matt 28:9). Again, NOT preach or teach - kerussw/didasko. Further, this was in a more private setting, not the assembly of the saints.
Aquila and Priscilla “expounded” (ektithami-to put or place out) the way of God more perfectly in a private discipleship setting, not public teaching in the church. Any special reason you reversed the order of the text in Acts 18:26?
The text of Scripture never says that Phebe taught! It calls her a “servant” and never once uses the words preach or teach in connection with her in the two passages where her name occurs (Rom 16:1,27). Recall my earlier mention of precision in citing the Word of God?
Phillip’s four virgin daughters did indeed prophesy (Acts 21:9). There is no indication that they did so in the assembly or that there were men present. Again, please note the absence of the words preach or teach. Same thing regarding Anna (Luke 2:36).
Now, in more detail regarding the matter of precision in teaching the Word of God. If you can generalize away from specific commands of Scripture by using passages that do not say what you said they say, then I guess you are free to have your own preferences, since you have redefined what God has indeed said.
If you can minimize Paul’s words to nothing more than opinion, then I guess you can rule that out, too.
HOWEVER, the reason for his command in 2Tim 2:12 is that “the man was first formed, then Eve” (v. 13) which goes back to even before the fall. This was God creation order. In the fall, the woman was deceived (v. 14). This is a further reason why the woman is not to “teach” (didaskw) or to usurp authority over the man.
In your next post you said: “I read nowhere where they were rebuked for preaching or prophesying...” OK. Where do you read that women ever “preached” to men or “prophesied” to men, or where they ever spoke publicly in a church assembly? Guess what, it is not there, no need for it to have been rebuked. They knew better...
Ticked off? Yeah, when people distort the Word and deny clear commands from the Apostle who wrote almost half of the New Testament, the Apostle who had the mind of Christ (1Cor 2:16), demonstrated the signs of Apostleship (2Cor 12:12), and was commissioned directly by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself and the Father (Gal 1:1).
Paul’s opinion or as you said, “own personal preferences”? God forbid (Rom 6:2).
Bereans? Indeed. That verse is on the front of our bulletin every Sunday, at Berea Baptist...
So, Tater, read the verses I mentioned with more precision and less generalization. Still agree? (Oh btw, glad you are OK. Prayed for you during Katrina and aftermath. Worried some when we did not hear from you for a while there...)
