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Woosie Pope and Biden
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The issue is who should receive communion.
"Francis told reporters traveling with him that “communion is not a prize for the perfect,” echoing statements he has made in the past, if not specifically in the context of politics or the United States. At a Mass in June, arguing that the church must be as open as possible, he said, “The eucharist is not the reward of saints but the bread of sinners.”
Pope Weighs In on Calls to Deny Communion to Biden Over Abortion
KenH
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Yes, among Catholics, not Baptists.
Is everyone welcome to partake in communion, even when they are in open sin? How would a Baptist answer this?
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Are they not considered Christians?
Are we all not sinners? That is how I, a Baptist answer this.
When my people of my fathers genes crawled outa the hills of Briton they worshipped the trees, rocks, hills, animals…Nature was god. They called them Druids and other names. My mothers people, called guides(Guida) know the passes into the mountains of the peninsula of south Italy did the same with Mars and Zeus as their gods. Up until Christ, there was no Catholic and no Baptist. So a communal service meant to share the peace that God provides is used to separate believers…I laugh
the Italian grandmother that raised me, who was born and raised in the Scranton PA area today, good Catholic that she was would shun Joe Biden from her humble home because of his stance on abortion. Her confidence in a pope that allowed for a political creature to make allowances for that stance would have shaken her support. When my mother, a practicing Catholic, told me that the RCC stance on child abuse was abhorrent, she was telling me to leave it, which I did. In effect, the RCC is broken. My question to Baptists of all stripes is, How far from broken are your churches? Have social and political issues changed the constructs of Baptist beliefs and should they have even been allowed in in the first place?
Good point! In my Baptist Church, there is a criterion to being allowed to partake.
Unfortunately your question is TOO relevant to todays churches; many Baptist (BINO??) churches included.
Recently had a woman join my church, FROM another local Baptist church, & her reason was, "they were getting too liberal for me!"
The choices are narrowing as we approach the rapture! Pity!!!!!!
This is nothing new…. The Scranton RC Bishop denied Biden and any politician supporting abortion ,access to any of the sacraments.
As it should be Brother…I believe Joe Biden is the one ushering it in…. Along with that faker that laughingly refer to as Pope.Unfortunately your question is TOO relevant to todays churches; many Baptist (BINO??) churches included.
Recently had a woman join my church, FROM another local Baptist church, & her reason was, "they were getting too liberal for me!"
The choices are narrowing as we approach the rapture! Pity!!!!!!
This quote by the author Taylor Caldwell well defines the personalities of current Liberal politicians, religious leaders, political parties.
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.
Taylor Caldwell
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.
Taylor Caldwell
Not all are justified by faith. Only the elect, chosen, of God can commune at the table with our King.
Can you select the elect from the non elect… if so, tell me how
This is where the person partaking in communion is held responsible. Those falsely partaking are in grave danger as evidenced by Judas and in the Corinthian church. All we can do is teach and warn people about the blessing and peril of partaking. However, I would warn every person to check themselves and confess their sin before partaking. I would tell everyone who have a sin against a brother or sister to go make it right before partaking or forego communion until they make it right.
Joe Biden would have to check himself and face God's wrath should he partake outside of faith.
Joe partakes regularly in his RC service… and carries with him a rosary that he shows people… as if that is a sign of piety and being one with Christ.
KenH
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Are Catholics Christians? Not likely. Catholicism is a works based religion, as are most religions that the world calls "Christian". Most so-called "Christian" religions think that man can add something(s) to God imputing the elect's sins to Christ and God imputing Christ's righteousness to the elect. They believe that man can add his faith or his repentance or his baptism or his church attendance or his church membership to the finished work of Christ and are not depending on "The Lord our Righteousness" alone for their salvation. Now should we believe, should we repent, should we be baptized, should be strive to be better people? Yes. But none of that adds up to salvation.
Matthew 7:22–23
[22] On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ [23] And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ (ESV)
"How do I know I am saved? Many will begin to talk about themselves. Hear this:
1..I am saved because I.....
2..Because you did what?
3..Because I chose, I decided, I got baptized, I attend church, I stopped drinking and smoking, I give my tithes and love offerings, I am getting better by not sinning as I used, I keep more of the Law now than before, I fast at the beginning of every year, I speak in tongues, I grew up in the church, my parents were deacons at our church, I...., I, dedicated my life to Jesus, and every year, I re-dedicate it again.....
4...This is the testimony of one who is still not saved... and yet this what is called the testimony of salvation..There are just too many, I, I, I..
5... Hear me someone, if you are one of these people, you need to repent to the truth.. THE ABOVE IS ALL RELIGIOUS GARBAGE, that means Nothing...
6..The testimony of salvation is not in some choreographed sinners prayer.. There is nothing called a sinner's prayer that one ought to repeat to be saved.
7..The salvation testimony speaks to the blood of Christ, its sufficiency alone to cause one to be declared holy and righteous..
8..True salvation does not ever walk away from the cross...
9..True salvation testimony never conditions salvation on the sinner, but on Christ alone.
10..True salvation speaks of righteousness credited/imputed not earned.......
And this is free." - James Nyahuye Guyo
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