You can be saved without the Gospel???

[Alan Gross]

Tha

Why don’t you break it down then?


What are we missing in Romans 4.

Thank you, Reformed, on clueing us in to the existence of an actual full System of Denying The Gospel, as a religion.

That way we know it is the issue of 'sin' not being known, as a Bible Doctrine.

Always is, with these entrenched strongholds of Bible Forum protected repudiations of an Angry God.

That's how they come out of hiding.

A Forum like this let's 'em beat the wind, until God and everybody knows.

That is a good thing.

Thanks, Again!!

 

[agedman]

Is there the element of 'Eternal Elect' and an 'Eternal Damned', in this Primitive thing?

No Bible, except, "the wind blows'?

A 3-word 'Bible'?

Just 'Something is, maybe, and we are ignorant of everything, otherwise?

That was what was called, 'Hardshell', wasn't it?

Pure fatalism?

Is that how Satan completely cuts a whole false religion loose from any responsibility?

That is exactly what I have said it is.

The EXACT OPPOSITE of The Bible.

...

We may be able to fill in the Parable of The Pharisee and The Tax Collector, with their judgments, after all.

We have people 'Guided' by The Holy Spirit that only say, "the wind blows', and THAT(?) is their Bible?

The express ignorance of The Entire Eternal Plan of Salvation?

No need for either TESTAMENT?

...

Jesus was already spat on, when He was on The Cross.

No wonder a thread topic can commit the unpardonable sin.
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Exuberant false statements that demean and distract from the thread.

Is this the best you can contrive?

 

[agedman]

So, Satan is O. K. with just skipping the whole "preach the Gospel", thing?

Do you know what the gospel really is?

 

[Reformed1689]

Really? How about children that die in the womb? Or people that are mentally challenged?


Your argument is horrible at best.

I think you need to be careful with this line of reasoning.

The Salvation of the 'Little Ones': Do Infants who Die Go to Heaven?

 

[agedman]

Tha



Thank you, Reformed, on clueing us in to the existence of an actual full System of Denying The Gospel, as a religion.

That way we know it is the issue of 'sin' not being known, as a Bible Doctrine.

Always is, with these entrenched strongholds of Bible Forum protected repudiations of an Angry God.

That's how they come out of hiding.

A Forum like this let's 'em beat the wind, until God and everybody knows.

That is a good thing.

Thanks, Again!!

My how your exuberance continues.

 

[Reformed1689]

So then the question must be answered, what is specifically the gospel and was it different to them in comparison to us?

Old Covenant vs. New Covenant.

 

[Alan Gross]

Unfortunately, you are being exclusionary and not inclusive as Paul states.

The single word that guarantees salvation is “belief.” Those that believe are redeemed, those who do not are already condemned.

Now, do not the Scriptures state, “Faith (belief) comes by hearing, and hearing comes by the Word of God?”

Did Job believe?
How about Noah, Mosses...

Was there a “gospel” delivered to them?

Of course, they heard God.

The Scriptures state of Noah that he “found grace in the eyes of the Lord.”

So then the question must be answered, what is specifically the gospel and was it different to them in comparison to us?

If the answer is no, and they did posses the same gospel, then with the exception of time and place of historical events all can be reached by the SAME gospel. But rather than the presentation being, “God will provide” as Abraham, we can state God has provided.

The SAME gospel delivered to Seth, is the same Gospel that saved Paul.

Every Passage in The Bible Glorifies God through Preaching and Presenting The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

If anyone doesn't 'believe' The Gospel, what do they think they are 'believing', when they 'believe', and have 'belief'?

It better be in them having sin that Must Be Forgiven, through Jesus DYING FOR THEIR SINS.

They better "Repent", and "Believe the Gospel".

 

[agedman]

I think you need to be careful with this line of reasoning.

The Salvation of the 'Little Ones': Do Infants who Die Go to Heaven?

Does not the article state,

“We believe that Scripture does indeed teach that all persons who die in infancy are among the elect. This must not be based only in our hope that it is true, but in a careful reading of the Bible. ”​

So where is your warning headed?

 

[kyredneck]

Really? How about children that die in the womb? Or people that are mentally challenged?

They make up provisions for those to 'go to heaven' apart from the gospel but won't even consider that God would make those same provisions for others.

It's 'heresy', 'hyper'.

 

[Reformed1689]

Does not the article state,

“We believe that Scripture does indeed teach that all persons who die in infancy are among the elect. This must not be based only in our hope that it is true, but in a careful reading of the Bible. ”​

So where is your warning headed?

Obviously you did not read the entire article.

 

[Reformed1689]

They make up provisions for those to 'go to heaven' apart from the gospel but won't even consider that God would make those same provisions for others.

It's 'heresy', 'hyper'.

Nope. The Salvation of the 'Little Ones': Do Infants who Die Go to Heaven?

 

[agedman]

Old Covenant vs. New Covenant.

Covenant has nothing do do in modifying how God redeems.

God redeems those of His choosing in exactly the same manner from Seth to the end of the millennial reign of Christ.

 

[agedman]

Obviously you did not read the entire article.

Why?

Does the writer deny that statement?

 

[PB Brother Tony]

Is there the element of 'Eternal Elect' and an 'Eternal Damned', in this Primitive thing?

No Bible, except, "the wind blows'?

A 3-word 'Bible'?

Just 'Something is, maybe, and we are ignorant of everything, otherwise?

That was what was called, 'Hardshell', wasn't it?

Pure fatalism?

Is that how Satan completely cuts a whole false religion loose from any responsibility?

That is exactly what I have said it is.

The EXACT OPPOSITE of The Bible.

...

We may be able to fill in the Parable of The Pharisee and The Tax Collector, with their judgments, after all.

We have people 'Guided' by The Holy Spirit that only say, "the wind blows', and THAT(?) is their Bible?

The express ignorance of The Entire Eternal Plan of Salvation?

No need for either TESTAMENT?

...

Jesus was already spat on, when He was on The Cross.

No wonder a thread topic can commit the unpardonable sin.
...

...

Unrepentadable

Is there the element of 'Eternal Elect' and an 'Eternal Damned', in this Primitive thing?

No Bible, except, "the wind blows'?

A 3-word 'Bible'?

Just 'Something is, maybe, and we are ignorant of everything, otherwise?

That was what was called, 'Hardshell', wasn't it?

Pure fatalism?

Is that how Satan completely cuts a whole false religion loose from any responsibility?

That is exactly what I have said it is.

The EXACT OPPOSITE of The Bible.

...

We may be able to fill in the Parable of The Pharisee and The Tax Collector, with their judgments, after all.

We have people 'Guided' by The Holy Spirit that only say, "the wind blows', and THAT(?) is their Bible?

The express ignorance of The Entire Eternal Plan of Salvation?

No need for either TESTAMENT?

...

Jesus was already spat on, when He was on The Cross.

No wonder a thread topic can commit the unpardonable sin.
...

...

Well that’s nonsensical.


You’re running out of arguments so accusations are being thrown.


We’re spitting on Christ yet we’re telling you that salvation is by Christ alone.


Where do we find what Christ has done?


The Gospel.


How does one believe in the Gospel?


Because they’re already born again.

 

[Alan Gross]

My how your exuberance continues.

Abdicating exuberance, zeal, forbearance, fortitude, obedience, and Worship of God, in Fulfilling His Command to Preach The Gospel, is the entire purpose, for this thread topic.

Christians are to Obey God, not their flesh.

 

[PB Brother Tony]

I think you need to be careful with this line of reasoning.

The Salvation of the 'Little Ones': Do Infants who Die Go to Heaven?

That’s what I just asked you!!!!!!


Since the elect hear the Gospel what happens to those that cannot comprehend it?



I’m asking you this.


Don’t put it on me.


I’m waiting for your reply.

 

[Reformed1689]

Covenant has nothing do do in modifying how God redeems.

I agree in the sense that it has always been by grace through faith. But the paradigm did shift in the NT from the OT.

 

[PB Brother Tony]

They make up provisions for those to 'go to heaven' apart from the gospel but won't even consider that God would make those same provisions for others.

It's 'heresy', 'hyper'.

It’s a prime example for people that have lame arguments.

 

[Reformed1689]

That’s what I just asked you!!!!!!


Since the elect hear the Gospel what happens to those that cannot comprehend it?



I’m asking you this.


Don’t put it on me.


I’m waiting for your reply.

I gave you my reply already. I can't help it if you don't want to read.

 

[Reformed1689]

It’s a prime example for people that have lame arguments.

Says the guy who didn't even read the argument.